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Re: New shop foundation? Poles in ground or out?


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Posted by bc on April 08, 2021 at 07:34:56 from (24.255.129.137):

In Reply to: New shop foundation? Poles in ground or out? posted by ih555 on April 06, 2021 at 20:09:21:

Got to thinking, I used CCA treated round posts on the shed we attached to the barn 40 years ago. Some are ok but there are two I noticed have rotted through at the surface in a corner where the drainage runs by them. I can fix by digging a new hole along side and sister in another post next to the one that is in concrete.

I have replaced a few CCA fence posts that have rotted off at the top of the concrete. Not so much a factor with a braced up building, but for wood fences with cedar planks I've found that in this clay in the area dries up in the summer with cracks so big you can stick your hand in them. Then the wind would blow the fence around and the posts in concrete would wallow out the hole they are in. Any new fence I put in now has the posts coated with roof/foundation coat, few inches of gravel in the bottom, and then I back fill them with sand. The sand stays packed around the post and during the wet dry cycles of moving clay, the sand fills in as the clay dries up. When the clay gets wet it just packs the sand in tighter. After a few years I throw some more sand around the post as it moves in to the clay. Also changed post spacing from 8' to 6' and with an 8' long post I only need 5' above ground (for a 6' tall fence) so that puts 3' in the ground below frost depth. Those fences don't wiggle an inch even with a fence facing a south wind blowing 30+ mph.

One of my pet peeves is all these steel building companies that put up their buildings right at ground level and don't do anything for drainage. I've seen some build into a depression or low spot.

Houses have to be on a foundation at least 12" above ground level to help keep termites out and control drainage. I'd do the same as a house for any steel building.


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