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Re: I like Ike


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Posted by LSaunders on October 15, 2018 at 08:25:20 from (209.99.198.55):

In Reply to: Re: I like Ike posted by Traditional Farmer on October 15, 2018 at 06:32:44:

Pretty close to the situation TF. Ike was in charge because he understood and agreed with Marshall's plan for the war. As a result of his experience in WWI, Marshall thought the failure in that war was the lack of cooperation among the allies. So in WWII he pushed for a coalition under one overall commander to keep everyone on the same page. Ike had the self discipline to deal with the over-sized egos of Churchill, Montgomery, and Patton, and keep those primma-donnas on the same page. It wasn't easy. At different times he came close to dumping both Patton and Montgomery. Both times he decided that there was nobody at their level of ability to replace them. He kept the end goal in mind, and retained them.

About Italy. The U.S. started off pushing the idea of D-Day taking place in 1943. Churchill was pushing his "soft underbelly of Europe" Italy scheme. They argued a long time about which way to go. In the end it came down to logistics. In 1943 there were not near enough landing vessels for an operation of the size that Normandy needed to be to succeed. At the same time, Russia was on the verge of collapse. Stalin was screaming for the allies to open a front somewhere, anywhere, to draw German troops and resources away from Russia. So the options in 1943 were: Stage a not-large-enough invasion of Normandy that would probably fail, or put that off to 1944, do nothing and let Russia fall, or invade Italy. Ike was never happy with the Italy operation, but it was the least bad of the options.

PARTNERS IN COMMAND by Mark Perry, is a book that goes into the working relationship between Ike and Marshall, and gives a lot of background on the decisions that were made.


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