Posted by HoosierHog on February 01, 2012 at 20:47:14 from (69.130.186.216):
In Reply to: Food nazis posted by rrlund on February 01, 2012 at 09:38:36:
i tried to stay out of this but i cant any more. I work for 4 different farms the one i work for the most is a large organic farm. and the ideas of organic and sustainability just make a lot more CENTS then the current GMO and chemical farm.
I see alot of arguments about the cost of organic food. Yes it costs more but if the govt did not subsidise the current system be it the farmers the prossesers or any of the other biusnesses that use the grain we grow you would see the real cost of food. your paying for it one way or the other right now you pay taxes and the govt pays down the system to make food cheaper. currently in a box of corn flakes that cost close to 4$ only 13cents of the price is for corn or corn by products. imagine if that was like 1$ worth of corn yep you would pay more but you pay it now any way only in your taxes.
the other myth is that the organic system cant produce as much food as the chemical system. thats what monsanto wants you to believe. and it has been disproven many times. yes we would not grow near as much corn or soy but it would be replaced by other crops. if you really want to see what years of organic land managment does google Joel Salatin. he is a genius. and makes more per acre than any one on this forum that is for sure. and i doubt any of us have a pasture that can support the numbers of livestock that his can.
people are affraid of change. And switching to a sustainable system is alot more work but the benifits out way the cons. and corprate ag has convinced alot of folks that there is no other way we can do it. you have to spend money for anhydrus and round up and glycol phosphate and hormones and gmo seed that is patented. its insane this country is so corrupt that we let a corporation patent corn seed and soy beans and its just crazy now if i plant an open pollinated seed and crosses with your gmo and i save seed i get sued. its just corprate c--p.
and yes this year our corn fields the bpa average during the drought was still 163 bushel per acre. why if you ask other farmers next door they will tell you the way the winds blow around the hill that one side of the road gets more rain. now that is dumb. really the yields were good cause for the last 20 years the soil has been managed in a sustainable way. we and compost and manure and all kinds of rich carbon material to the soil and after years of proper managment the soil drains better in the wet years and retains moisture in the dry years the compost and organic material soak up water and keep nutrients were the plants need them and stop them from leaching to the air or draining away. neighbors yeilds were 126 bpa in corn ground and worst was 74 bpa our worst was 146 bpa.
and if you want to look at the science data most ag schools have done there own studies K-State, Cornel, Purdue and many more and the data doesnt lie. chemical farming and gmo are a short term fix. there is a way of producing much much much more food per acre in a sustainable way. we dont need round up and gmo's.
and you want to see proof look up poly face farms. not one gmo or chemical used in decades and is the most profitable farm per acre in the country (according to the goodmorning america show when the did a special on poly face farms).
ok im done with my rant. sorry my grammer is so poor. hope what i said makes sense.
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