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buickanddeere

03-07-2008 11:59:41

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I'm getting about ready to fill my entire drive shed with a Rodentantor to get rid of the rats.
I've trapped out hundreds, usually 2-3 every day since November. Also Finding nests then feeding dozens of young rats to the ducks. Plus the dead rats ones found all over from poisoning. The dog gets some and I've flooded out burrows under the shed. Maybe hope yet. Recently catching old full grown rats and fewer juveniles.
There must have been an entire colony move in last fall.
Somebody just recently told me to catch a live full grown rat. And tie it up live hanging by it's tail in the middle of the shed. Apparently the rat begins to squeal a warning "get out of here" and all rats leave for 2-4 months.

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1936

03-09-2008 09:15:25

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Re: rats hung by tail in reply to buickanddeere, 03-07-2008 11:59:41

As long as you are feeding them you will have rats. Hire a pro that makes a living killing rats. All the home made stuff just will not close the deal. If you want mix any kind of ground up canned fish in the rat posion. Rats love a change of diet! Dogs and cats will line up to eat this so lock them up. For something to do we would turn on the lights and shoot them running with 22 cal shot shells. Two inch barrel. Passed the time still had rats with the ground feed.

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NE IA

03-07-2008 20:46:31

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Re: rats hung by tail in reply to buickanddeere, 03-07-2008 11:59:41

We used to shell out ear corn cribs and the rats were chased with a scoop shovel. At the neighbors we placed a couple of sheets of tin to funnel the rats under a old lawn mower just at the end of the funnel. We would chase them out the door way and they would just run under the mower.

A real good way also in to dig open their tunnel and pour molases in the middle and Lewis Lye on both ends, the rat steps in the molases and then into the lye. They will lick their feet and take on they lye. Listen to them later on, be sure to shave the back of your neck as they will scream, a very violent death. Very effective, you just cant believe how loud they will squeal.

A ex brother inlaw put pop in his basment because mice can not pass gas or burp. His wife was so mad she had tears in her eyes as they all headded for the inside walls to die. That house stunk for six months, anyone who ever had a stinky dead mouse will certianly understand the smell thing.

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criss

03-07-2008 19:01:45

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Re: rats hung by tail in reply to buickanddeere, 03-07-2008 11:59:41

Wow. Just, wow.

Rats may cause you trouble, but they are thinking, feeling creatures who cry out in pain they're hurt. Making your place less hospitable to them seems logical, but I guess that would be too much work.

Also, poisoning is a horrible, slow, painful death.

And it isn't limited to the rats--predators and scavengers who eat the dead and dying poisoned rats will also get sick and possibly die. So instead of having hawks and foxes and whatnot controlling the rat population, now you have killed them off and cleared the way for the rat population to come back twice as strong; decades of this kind of thinking has almost certainly made the rodent problems on most farms worse.

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James22

03-08-2008 12:58:03

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Re: rats hung by tail in reply to criss, 03-07-2008 19:01:45

Don't believe you will receive any sympathy for rats on this board, me included. Appears you might do better at the Karni Mata Temple in Deshnoke, India. Those Hindus can worship rats and cattle as much as they want, whereas I'll continue to indiscriminately kill rats/mice and enjoy steak when I can afford it.

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RayP(MI)

03-07-2008 17:58:02

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Re: rats hung by tail in reply to buickanddeere, 03-07-2008 11:59:41

Even one rat can be an amazing problem. We had one that took over a bunch of ground mole tunnels, showed up all over the sheep pasture, especially around shelter building. Then he got into (under) the polebarn, where we store sheep feed on a pallet. Tunnel city! Finally got lucky, and he caught his butt (literally) in a muskrat trap. Haven't seen any more rat problem. Didn't seem interested in conventional rat/mouse bait, although the mice sure liked it.

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matthies

03-07-2008 17:31:56

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Re: rats hung by tail in reply to buickanddeere, 03-07-2008 11:59:41

Have you tried antifreeze or how about the flybait and Coke(pop) that some guys use for coons. When I was in school the teachers warned us about giving the rats(science projects) pop. Rats can't burp and the carbonation kills them. My cousin had a bad rat problem on his farm and the poison guy bait was all in dust form. He said that rats are like cats and lick themselves to clean themselves. With the poison in dust form they would end up digesting it since alot of rats won't eat the poison if there is other food to eat. chris

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Iowa_tire_guy

03-07-2008 17:28:05

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Re: rats hung by tail in reply to buickanddeere, 03-07-2008 11:59:41

Mike (WA) said: (quoted from post at 15:41:34 03/07/08) Neighbor gets moles by running a pipe from the exhaust pipe on his pickup into the runs- seems to work well. Would have to have tunnels that would keep the gas in, however.

We had a neighbor try this but he used his wife's central vacuum sweeper hose. Worked good for about 20 seconds until it melted the hose. Her 50 foot hose was 49 foot after that and she wasn't happy.

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Crem

03-07-2008 17:51:49

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Re: rats hung by tail in reply to Iowa_tire_guy, 03-07-2008 17:28:05

That was one of my jobs back in the sixties when I worked in an apple orchard. I ran the exhaust from an Allis model B down into the runways to kill pocket gophers. Spent about 15 minutes at each mound. It was good duty back then if the weather was nice.

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glennster

03-07-2008 17:21:01

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Re: rats hung by tail in reply to buickanddeere, 03-07-2008 11:59:41

saw a show a while back on rats in europe on the discovery channel. from what they said rats live in communities, unlike mice. when a rat gets poisoned, the other rats smell the sick animal and will not touch any food that has the same smell. that is why they will quit taking poison. what i did then to clear up the rat problem at one of our farms, was to rotate poison. start with, one bite, then after 2 weeks jaguar, 2 weeks, tomcat, two weeks hawk, then d-con, after that go thru one more cycle of different baits. really cleaned up ours good.

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Bob

03-07-2008 16:40:24

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Re: rats hung by tail in reply to buickanddeere, 03-07-2008 11:59:41

How are you going to convince a rat to hold still while you tie it up by it's tail, and HOW are you gonna keep it from chewing the cord (or it's tail) off in about 1/10TH of a second?

I have seen a rat tear up a dog's face and neck quick'ern SNOT, and it wasn't pretty!

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super99

03-07-2008 16:25:15

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Re: rats hung by tail in reply to buickanddeere, 03-07-2008 11:59:41

Never tried it, so this is worth what you are paying for it. My Dad always said to get rid of rats, catch one alive and singe the hair off of it snd turn it loose. No more rats.

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Hoss in ME

03-07-2008 15:24:23

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Re: rats hung by tail in reply to buickanddeere, 03-07-2008 11:59:41

Get you a couple of ferrets and turn them loose,bye bye rats.Later Hoss

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Mike (WA)

03-07-2008 14:41:34

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Re: rats hung by tail in reply to buickanddeere, 03-07-2008 11:59:41

Neighbor gets moles by running a pipe from the exhaust pipe on his pickup into the runs- seems to work well. Would have to have tunnels that would keep the gas in, however.

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Gene Dotson

03-07-2008 14:28:56

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Re: rats hung by tail in reply to buickanddeere, 03-07-2008 11:59:41

Several years ago I bought a farm that had been abandoned for 3 years. The previous owners had left about 15 bushels of oats on a concrete floor next to the dirt floor in the garage. The rats were so bad that they had a path worn bare to the house. I remodeled the house and moved in and could hear the rats gnawing in the walls every night.
I knew they were tunneled under the concrete floor in the garage. Had the ammonia tank there side dressing corn, so took the hose and ran it for several seconds on one side of the burrows till I saw vapor coming out the far side. To make sure I had all of them, I went around all the buildings and gassed every hole I found. The result? No more rats at all.
I have also gotten rid of groundhogs with this method.
Another method that works is to mix chlorine bleach and ammonia cleaning fluid. This produces ammoniun chloride gas which is poison and should be used where good ventilation is available. Just quickly pour it in the burrows... Gene

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kyplowboy

03-07-2008 17:50:04

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Re: rats hung by tail in reply to Gene Dotson, 03-07-2008 14:28:56

That was alot cheaper a few years ago!!! :)

Dave

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Gene Dotson

03-07-2008 18:48:05

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Re: rats hung by tail in reply to kyplowboy, 03-07-2008 17:50:04

Yeah, Dave. That is why I started using the bleach and ammonia. Can buy it in the store and mix up as I need it. Haven't had any rat problems here, but has deminished the groundhog problem. Now if the owner of the abandoned farm next door would control them around his buildings, the population would be less... Gene

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kyplowboy

03-07-2008 19:43:47

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Re: rats hung by tail in reply to Gene Dotson, 03-07-2008 18:48:05

I hear ya! The only time I have used that trick was in college. A dog that lived a few doors down kept getting into my trash. Talked to the guy and he told me to get a better trash can. Pint of each in a bag of trash tied tight, a little hamburger greese on the out side of the bag. Did not hurt him too bad, but he stayed away from my trash for the rest of my stay in that little town. Dave

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mitch furness

03-07-2008 14:17:51

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Re: rats hung by tail in reply to buickanddeere, 03-07-2008 11:59:41

Get some grain they like to eat and lace it with 'Fenthion', this is the active ingredient for systemic insecticides. Make sure you keep out of the road of all other stock as anything that eats it will die, dogs, pigs, horses etc.

Failing that a heap of rat bait should stop them. Where are they living? Destroy there nests too.

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Angle Iron

03-07-2008 13:03:17

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Re: rats hung by tail in reply to buickanddeere, 03-07-2008 11:59:41

The story around home as a kid was to catch and paint one white. Set it free when dry and it was supposed to scare the others away. Never saw it done so don't know. I'm not sure I would tell anybody that I was going to do it though. Angle Iron

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You probably know

03-07-2008 13:00:38

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Re: rats hung by tail in reply to buickanddeere, 03-07-2008 11:59:41

But, anyways, get rid of their hiding spaces. If they are using sawdust/litter to their advantage, get rid of it. Piles of old boards and stuff like that are usually crawling with rats when you move em around, and if you're cleaning up it doesn't hurt to have a shovel nearby for the ones that pop out. Never tried the live rat hangin, but I know a clean place with well kept poison as other said works wonders.

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supergrumpy

03-07-2008 12:55:52

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Re: rats hung by tail in reply to buickanddeere, 03-07-2008 11:59:41

its an election year

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Dave from MN

03-07-2008 12:34:06

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Re: rats hung by tail in reply to buickanddeere, 03-07-2008 11:59:41

What are you offering them for dinner that you cant get rid of them?? You need to remove or isolate EVERY source of food for them, then put out poisen, regularly, dont let it run out, keep it fresh. Gonna take alot. Letting them leave is just gonna let them reproduce to return another day to your place or some one elses. Neighbor stores his gound feed on the floor in his pig barn, has slop water all over then wonders why he has rats, and wants ME to donate bait cause I get it at a discount.

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jdemaris

03-07-2008 12:13:58

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Re: rats hung by tail in reply to buickanddeere, 03-07-2008 11:59:41

Good luck, I used to hear the same about crows. Kill one and hang it upside-down in the field to scare off others. I tried it once, doesn't work.

We had a mess of rats here last year - they all moved in at once - from where, I don't know.

I poisoned many and also trapped many. Just about every one that got caught in a trap, got eaten alive by the other rats. So, at least in this case - it did't scare them a bit. They did however, get pretty smart about getting caught in traps.

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buickanddeere

03-07-2008 12:29:37

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Re: rats hung by tail in reply to jdemaris, 03-07-2008 12:13:58

Now that you mention it. At 1st I suspected a couple of bantams I can't keep in a pen were eating the trapped rats. Cannibalism is making more sense now. There also has been problems with rats burying traps under litter. They will haul sawdust/litter 1-2 ft from the pen to a trap just to set it off. Setting up boards to force rats into "runways" and over traps traveling to and from the feed & water. Works mostly on the young uneducated rats. Recently heard some squealing and looked around to observe a rat chasing a mouse.

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Balatonm

03-07-2008 12:11:47

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Re: rats hung by tail in reply to buickanddeere, 03-07-2008 11:59:41

Hmmm, neve heard od that method, peta would go crazy if they found out anyboudy was doing that.

Oh well.
my 2 cents

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