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Help! Heifer/Cow

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Allan In NE

05-07-2007 03:38:33




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Hi Guys,

I've got a yearling that has me scratchin' my head. First started noticing this three weeks to a month ago.

Every once in awhile she won't come up to eat and really "looks like" she's bloated. She "hangs back", is all pouched up high on the left side at that rear stomach, kicking at her belly, will lay down, then immediately will get up walk around a little and lay back down again.

Just obviously is in pain and off her feed. Not breathing hard or choking in the least and no slobber, but when this is going on, she looks "droopy eyed" and sick. She looks "gassed up".

The weird part is that the next day she will be just fine again with no sign of that protruding "basketball".

I'm feeding up last years hay, they have access to a little bit of new growth grass and I have been graining 'em for some time now, so I really don't think it is bloat even tho it looks like it. Maybe it's just my imaganation, but seems to always happen after a rain.

Twisted gut? Hardware? Overfed? Every time I go to hook onto the trailer to take her to the Vet's, she's back to being okay again.

Darned if I know; guess I'll just throw some magnets down her and see how she responds?

Allan

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BC in TN

05-09-2007 18:01:54




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 Re: Help! Heifer/Cow in reply to Allan In NE, 05-07-2007 03:38:33  
I would bet MN Scott is right on the money.
Grass Teteney (Sp).
There is a mineral block with preventative in it -I start each spring with a few blocks of it.



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Nomad

05-07-2007 20:18:03




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 Re: Help! Heifer/Cow in reply to Allan In NE, 05-07-2007 03:38:33  
Allen: I believe the heifer has a stomach that is partially torn loose .It (bloat) will happen time after time (only way to fix is to reattach the stomach Very expensive--- Send her to the packer as soon as possible). If she bloates up the day before you are going to take her to the sale barn, you can mostgennerally put her in the stock trailer and drive her over rough gravel roads for 10 or 15 min. and usually it will go away. Good luck Nomad

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Sandbur

05-07-2007 19:53:30




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 Re: Help! Heifer/Cow in reply to Allan In NE, 05-07-2007 03:38:33  
Allen, Bloat block may be in order if you are getting ready to turn out on grass.Sounds like you nailed it with the alfalfa hay and being wet to boot. It sounds like bloat to me.
There has been quite a bit of grass tetany here, but doesn't sound like your problem. They are saying to use a mineral high in Magnesium if you are turning cattle out on grass early. THe grass is growing faster than it can take up magnesium, thus grass tetany. The magnesium is not very palatable, soo they are saying to mix it with some molasses to make sure your cattle get it before turning out. Good luck to you.

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BLinWMi

05-07-2007 18:22:43




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 Re: Help! Heifer/Cow in reply to Allan In NE, 05-07-2007 03:38:33  
sounds like an issue of bloating from fresh green crop high in nitrates. Feed her a few slabs of oat straw for a week or so, bet you will see the problem go away. Seen it on our cows when they are cooped up in the barn all winter and then hit the pastures. Grandpa just fed them a couple slabs a day of straw and they were fine.



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Coloken

05-07-2007 06:31:26




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 Re: Help! Heifer/Cow in reply to Allan In NE, 05-07-2007 03:38:33  
Strange one. I think you got it figured pretty well. Sounds a litle more than just a cronic bloater to me. I'd guess the twisted gut or some phisical problem. A large impacted food or bailer twine maybe? She's realy in pain if she kicks at her belly. Not a dead calf in her is there?



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Allan In NE

05-07-2007 08:53:41




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 Re: Help! Heifer/Cow in reply to Coloken, 05-07-2007 06:31:26  
That's what I was wondering, but here's the kicker.

Went out there to do chores this morning and there is 3 more of 'em all puffed up, one of which is a steer.

I wonder if it isn't just the new grass that is doing it? They are in quite a large area and the new grass is growing like crazy. 'Spose they just aren't used to it and over eating?

Dunno. Weird.

Allan



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MN Scott

05-07-2007 11:58:40




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 Re: Help! Heifer/Cow in reply to Allan In NE, 05-07-2007 08:53:41  
Okay, sounds like you may have a differant problem. Grass tetneny [SP]? Do they have mineral and plenty of salt? I think you better consult a vet on this one if they are still bloating in a day or so. They could be bloating from to much green grass but it should only be a day or so until their guts adjust. Dunno, keep a close eye on them.



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MN Scott

05-07-2007 05:56:08




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 Re: Help! Heifer/Cow in reply to Allan In NE, 05-07-2007 03:38:33  
I've had cows like that before, like Gary said get her to the sales barn before you lose her. In my experence they will bloat worse on green grass.



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Nebraska Cowman

05-07-2007 04:15:02




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 Re: Help! Heifer/Cow in reply to Allan In NE, 05-07-2007 03:38:33  
Yeah, that's bloat. Is she overeating on wet alfalfa hay? Get em turned out Allen. She'll probably straighten out.



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Allan In NE

05-07-2007 04:20:39




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 Re: Help! Heifer/Cow in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 05-07-2007 04:15:02  
Sure what it looks like and yes, the last bale I fed was straight alfalfa hay during the rain.

Thanks Pard,

Allan



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IaGary

05-07-2007 05:50:29




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 Re: Help! Heifer/Cow in reply to Allan In NE, 05-07-2007 04:20:39  
Mornin Allan

Some cattle are chronic bloaters.

You may want to consider getting rid of this one before you loose her.

Had a calve that was like that and before I got him to town he over did it.

Gary



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Allan In NE

05-07-2007 05:57:50




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 Re: Help! Heifer/Cow in reply to IaGary, 05-07-2007 05:50:29  
Hmmmm,

Never had a critter bloat on hay before, even tho I've heard of it, especially alfalfa when wet.

It's always this same critter too. Three times now in the past month or so.

Thanks,

Allan



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Jim Johnson

05-07-2007 06:44:16




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 Re: Help! Heifer/Cow in reply to Allan In NE, 05-07-2007 05:57:50  
Allan the old cattle traders would feed wet Alfalfa to their cattle, they would bloat then go down but would hold the weight for a short period of time. When you bought them they would lose weight fast for a couple days.

Jim



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knjj

05-07-2007 03:46:42




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 Re: Help! Heifer/Cow in reply to Allan In NE, 05-07-2007 03:38:33  
could be sand colic, as in horses. might try pysillium .



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