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Amo in nebraska

11-30-2006 16:53:55

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O.K. I learned quite a bit about 88 series. Im not addidected to red, but somebody yesterday said that the syncro tri-six was totally progressive from power quad. Again I need to drive a 88 series but I didnt think that a quad was all that bad...no power shift but? My problem with JD is trying to get one with 3hyd in good shape for reasonalbe price. Also feul consumption. When you look at Ne tests though it doesnt look much different form 4440 to 1086. And 88 series basicly same motor.

By the way how do they figure their acre per hr per gal or what ever it is. Some of them made sence but some I thought were out of order for what they were next to.

Ive never been around a case or a 2096 etc. All I know is 3spd pwrsft. Good, bad, find a good cliff and jump?

Thanks
Gary

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Amo in nebraska

12-01-2006 17:34:56

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Re: 5088vs4440vs2294 in reply to Amo in nebraska, 11-30-2006 16:53:55

Thanks for explaing the ne test deal...a 30" mower deck wouldnt cover a 1/4 very easily!

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nickg

12-01-2006 06:55:14

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Re: 5088vs4440vs2294 in reply to Amo in nebraska, 11-30-2006 16:53:55

I'll admit I am partial to green. I think I would also have to consider the availability of parts. I know around here any of the guys still running a case can't find parts. The case Ih dealers only are carrying parts for Ih or case ih. I have never had a case but i have had a 4440 and a 5088. Both are good machines. I htink the deere has better hydraulics and the cab is more comfortabl and functional for me. I als liked the transmission better in the 4440.

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Triplerange

12-01-2006 05:24:12

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Re: 5088vs4440vs2294 in reply to Amo in nebraska, 11-30-2006 16:53:55

We've pulled the same tillage tools behind our 2094 although slower than our MFWD 1586...and the 1586 is rated 70hp higher! The case has far better low eng. speed torque. Ours has a 504cu in engine. Fuel wise the 2094 wins. I know the fuel pump is different between the 1586 and the 5088.

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Brendon

12-01-2006 03:33:26

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Re: 5088vs4440vs2294 in reply to Amo in nebraska, 11-30-2006 16:53:55

The fuel economy is recorded as (horsepower X hours)/(gallon) and is said as "horsepower hours per gallon". For example, say you have a tractor that makes 100 hp and gets an economy of 15 hp-hrs/gal. To determine how many gallons per hour is being consumed, divide the horsepower by the economy (100 hp) / (15 hp-hrs/gal) and you get 6.7 gallons per hour.

The fact that horsepower enters into the equation is why the little garden tractors tested at Nebraska in the '50s got such terrible economy. They obviously didn't burn much fuel per hour but they also didn't make much power out of what they did burn.

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135 Fan

11-30-2006 19:09:15

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Re: 5088vs4440vs2294 in reply to Amo in nebraska, 11-30-2006 16:53:55

A 2096 is apparently one of the best Case tractors. I know some people with one. Over 14,000 hours on original engine. It's a 5.9 Cummins, similar to Dodge cummins, but is a little thirsty when worked. They had a problem with the shift linkage and also when you down shift the power shift it jerks and almost shoots you through the window in high gear if you don't idle down first. They use it as an all around chore and work tractor and it holds up pretty good even though they aren't the best at routine maintenance. Dave

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Youngfarmhand

11-30-2006 18:12:00

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Re: 5088vs4440vs2294 in reply to Amo in nebraska, 11-30-2006 16:53:55

A 2294 is almost as much as a 7120, the 4440"s are good tractors that transmission is pretty impressive. From what I"ve seen price and durability wise though for the price a 5088 is the best bang for your buck.

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Amo in nebraska

11-30-2006 17:50:15

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Re: 5088vs4440vs2294 in reply to Amo in nebraska, 11-30-2006 16:53:55

Ran an 8630 and 8650 little bit 4430. They are decent shifting. Need 3hyd for bale processor w/ liquid tank (orbit motor) and would like to have dozer blade as well (got a splitter). They say green holds resale, but red is cheaper to buy and you get less so ratio wise not much difference.

Go off the deep end...got a friend with a white/oliver. He likes it. Not much of a fan of that or pumpkins either. What about Fords? They are economical. Little harder to work on though I think.

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nw_bearcat

12-01-2006 05:09:11

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Re: 5088vs4440vs2294 in reply to Amo in nebraska, 11-30-2006 17:50:15

i wouldn't try to find a 4440 w/ 3 hyd already, they're pretty slim. we needed more outlets on our 4440 some time ago and put together a package that works well.

our 4440 had dual outlets, and we needed to run a baler, or bale processor w/ our loader. JD sells a power beyond kit that gets fluid from infront of the hyd outlets. we put that on, plumbed in a 3 circuit valve, 2 are for the loader, and the 3rd has a float position on it that we just plumbed to outlets on the back. now we have 3 rear remotes, and 2 in the middle for the loader. if we get a grapple, we'll move the one rear to the middle for that.

you can do something similar w/ the electric splitters. i put one on a 756 w/ single hyd to run a batwing (1 for wings 1 for main lift) i bought it from Surplus Center in NE, it didn't come w/ hoses or wires, but saved a chunk of $$

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Steven@AZ from ND

11-30-2006 17:15:11

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Re: 5088vs4440vs2294 in reply to Amo in nebraska, 11-30-2006 16:53:55

I am an IH man - born and raised red... but I would pick the 4440 out of those three in a heartbeat.

We have a 2590 Case - it is a good tractor, but the 3-speed powershift has splits that are too big and it jumps when you shift it. We use it for pretty much everything - heavy tillage, stack mover, baler, loader, grain vac, etc. Nice powerful tractor, but in my opinion the transmission is out-dated compared to quad range.

We also have an 8630 JD 4x4. The quad range in the JD is a darn good system and they run many hours trouble-free. I like the splits on the quad range - no jumpy shifts, and synchronized between the gears you need to clutch for. Lots of gear combinations so you can get the right speed for the job. 4440 is a popular loader tractor in the area of ND where I am from, a couple of our neighbors have them and enjoy them.

Just my opinion and experience...

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shoeie

11-30-2006 17:13:40

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Re: 5088vs4440vs2294 in reply to Amo in nebraska, 11-30-2006 16:53:55

Of the tractors you mentioned, I would pick the 2294 for ease of handling, fuel consumption, and hp. The cases are far above what they are rated. I've ren them all, that would be my choice.

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RonSa

12-01-2006 07:22:38

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Re: 5088vs4440vs2294 in reply to shoeie, 11-30-2006 17:13:40

I am not partial to any color as my collection will attest to. I currently have Deere, IH, Ford, Allis, and Case. They all have their good and bad features. I ran some neighbors tractors as well as my own during harvest and tillage: 5088IH, 8310JD, 7120CNH, 8830(Ford), 1170Case,4230?JD and I believe the following is objective. CNH should have kept the Case 451-504 engine. There is something magic about the way that engine performs. The 8310 cab functions well but is noiser than the Ford or Magnum. After 5 hrs in the 8310, I wanted ear muffs. My ideal tractor would be one with the 504 Case engine, Deere cab functions, Ford quietness, and Magnum transmission.

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KRUSS

12-01-2006 08:57:27

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Re: 5088vs4440vs2294 in reply to RonSa, 12-01-2006 07:22:38

For the money, a 2096 was the best tractor I have ever owned. BUT, that 5.9 does not and can not lug like a 504 and you shouldn't expect it to.

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RonSa

12-02-2006 06:50:25

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Re: 5088vs4440vs2294 in reply to KRUSS, 12-01-2006 08:57:27

The 504 Case computes to be an 8.3 liter engine. The 466 IH engine computes to 7.6 liters. 404 engines are 6.6 liters. You are correct about lugability. Among the limited choices forced on us today in the medium size tractor market,I think the 5.9 is a good choice. Smaller displacement engines, take up less space under the hood and costless to manufacture. HOWEVER, The small displacement engines have little or no flatness to their HP curve and, therefore, this forces a lot of gear shifting/jerking when pulling heavy loads. The old Case engine had a more flat HP curve and would power thru momentary tough spots.

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