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Matt Kane

08-28-2006 18:36:48




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I know everyone who farms, and people who are surrounded by farmland get mice, and some alot of them. My house is a 150+ year old farmhouse that gets mice like crazy, anyone got any good mice control techniques? I can set traps all the time but it never ends. I have 2 cats, which dont even try and I have 2 little boys, So the thought of poison scares me a little. Any suggestions? Thanks




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cj3b_jeep

08-30-2006 06:24:27




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 Re: O/T Mice in reply to Matt Kane, 08-28-2006 18:36:48  
I'm not sure why your cats are not interested, but we have 4 indoor cats and currently one outdoor that got dropped off a few weeks ago. All of them are vicious, savage killers of mice, spiders, moths, bees, you name it. A few years ago we had a mouse in the house that came in with some boxes from the garage. It was total mayhem with the four of them after it. I think the mouse had a heart attack and died before the cats could kill it. Our outdoor kitty kills at least one a night in the garage. She has a little stack of bodies in there.

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Leland

08-29-2006 16:48:43




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 Re: O/T Mice in reply to Matt Kane, 08-28-2006 18:36:48  
Bought several electronic pest repellers at sams club plugged them in all thru house and garage and have not saw a mouse in 3 years .



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Charlie in NY

08-29-2006 09:29:48




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 Re: O/T Mice in reply to Matt Kane, 08-28-2006 18:36:48  
I'm having good luck with two Victor products. A "Tin Cat" and their smallest Hav-a-Hart trap (I think it's the 1020). I allow our chicken free-play in the barn and grounds, and they were constantly tripping "kill" traps and I didn't want them ingesting poison (being lower than the rest of the family in the food chain). I run these two in the coop and the live trap I empty probaby 5 out of 7 days. The tin cat doesn't catch as many, but it is simple, self "resetting" (it can hold dozens of mice and still work) and is great for places you don't get to every day.

My Kerry Blue terrier also doesn't allow a rat, though the mice don't seem to concern him near as much. One of our (4) house cats is what I consider a good mouser. The others would rather be well fed on kibbles and warm in the house. We have two pseudo feral cats (who I do not feed) that I figure account for six a day between them. They were the products of drive-by bootings (car slows, kitten gets the boot, car leaves). Jake either caught my body english or just instinctively knows they aren't allowed in the chicken areas or near the house and Ma's bird feeders.

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Matt Kane

08-29-2006 17:37:54




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 Re: O/T Mice in reply to Charlie in NY, 08-29-2006 09:29:48  
I had a woman I work with say something about those tin cats. Where can I find em? I really dont want 10000 stray cats around the house. I have 2 now (Inside), and I think there were a few outside so my female pissed on our new carpet, new carpet and pad up and down, I was pissed!



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morningwood

08-29-2006 09:25:55




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 Re: O/T Mice in reply to Matt Kane, 08-28-2006 18:36:48  
I had mouse problems a few years ago. Was reading about solutions and found that putting powdered washing machine soap around the foundation of my house in the fall cured my problem. I only had problems with mice in the winter after they pull the crops off. I also filled all holes with foam.

Scott



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Red Dave

08-29-2006 09:05:45




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 Re: O/T Mice in reply to Matt Kane, 08-28-2006 18:36:48  
Quit feeding the cats. Let nature take it's course.



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pcy1066

08-29-2006 07:52:17




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 Re: O/T Mice in reply to Matt Kane, 08-28-2006 18:36:48  
i know a lot of people cuss them but what i have found that works the best is none other than a couple pet coons, i am not talking wild rumageing coons im talking coons thats mothers were killed and we raised on a bottle, our oldest is 5 years old, betsy, it is unreal the mice, rats, wasps, i have seen her kill, little b is 4 months old and also works on mice bees and wasps,mind you betsy slept in bed with my wife and myself for 3 years now little b does, a tame raised coon is a heck of a good pet,we used to have trouble with visitors, we lost guns. money, jewlrey ect, since the word got out theres a 35 lb sow coon lives there (she has never been in a cadge)and is not real paticuler about atacking strangers we dont have problems anymore,our freindly new holland salseman had a runin with her a couple weeks ago,usally she dissapears thru the day and comes out a little after dark, about three in the afternoon he stoped by, my wife was gone we were working in garadge, he needed to use bathroom , well if i would have had a camra im sure i could have won funniest home vidios and when animals attack, im kinda proud of them, betsy had 5 little one this spring , we also have a albino , havta keep her in a cadge tho

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Nebraska Cowman

08-29-2006 05:25:31




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 Re: O/T Mice in reply to Matt Kane, 08-28-2006 18:36:48  
I'd get rid of the cats. Dishes of high protien cat food are good mouse food. Stop up all the cracks and holes you can in the house foundation and keep traping. If the mice have no food source they aren't hard to control, but with cats or dogs being fed in the house the little critters have a constant supply.



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doogdoog

08-29-2006 01:47:20




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 Re: O/T Mice in reply to Matt Kane, 08-28-2006 18:36:48  
Aloha, I read about a lot of cats in the postings but not enough about dogs. If there's a rat or mouse around, my dogs will get them. If there's a rat or mouse around, the dogs will get the scent and will work for hours trying to find them. Just keep a large amount of water around because they will be thirsty from working.

Mahalo,
doogdoog



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Jim and Joanie

08-28-2006 21:47:23




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 Re: O/T Mice in reply to Matt Kane, 08-28-2006 18:36:48  
Heard mint extract on cotton balls work, instead of mint extract I am ordering some pure peppermint oil to use and see what happens.

I have had no luck in keeping them out of my trailer with Bounce and sonic repellers



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2x4

08-28-2006 21:25:30




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 Re: O/T Mice in reply to Matt Kane, 08-28-2006 18:36:48  
We had the same thing, 120 yr-old house designed by mice for mice. You have to focus on stopping them from getting into the house. Once they're in no amount of traps can solve the problem, tho glue traps are a big help at entrances, if you can locate them. With a house that old, the whole place is one big entrance. If its in the woods, no amount of hungry cats can keep them all from making the short dash from woods to house. Spray foam from aerosol cans will plug the holes nicely but you need to get on it now as they start coming in for the winter.

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JOHN HARMON

08-28-2006 21:24:01




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 Re: O/T Mice in reply to Matt Kane, 08-28-2006 18:36:48  
We used "Hedge Apples" or rather the fruit from 'Osage Orange"trees. Just spread them around the farm and rats and Mice are gone.Every Farm around us use to have Fence Rows of Osage Orange Trees. They made real tough Fence Posts along with the "Apples they produced. Sadly they are all disappearing along with Fence Rows.



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Billy NY

08-28-2006 21:15:48




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 Re: O/T Mice in reply to Matt Kane, 08-28-2006 18:36:48  
Cats and traps, I like traps the best, but hungry cats will do some damage, we have one at the farm who is incessant on the mice, I've seen a stack of 9 or better on some occasions.

At home, every year, in just a little while they come out of the fields to find warm places to winter, vehicles, the house, whatever.

I set traps in the engine compartments and the cabs of my trucks, I set traps in the cellar, lots of traps out of the way, mark down where they are and check them frequently.

What I have found is that the D-Con (someone must have used it quite often here before me) does is torture them with poison, a slow death and they don't always die where you can find them, then they reek something terrible. They take the D-Con and store it, in places I have no idea where, for years after, I still find half dead ones roaming around, or ones that are hidden and reeking to high he!! not good, and no matter what creature it is, either kill it quick humanely or not, I kind of play by the rules, although they can cause some damage to things and I don't like them, I have raised and studied the local species to learn things about them. They are amusing pets, especially voles, but nonethless pests too.

Dead ones from the traps are hors devours for the crows, if poisoned, you cannot feed them to anything.

I also find that eliminating the sources of where they live outside, it's best to keep a place neat, it eliminates their places to live. Had a pile of concrete block nearby for years and high amount of mice traffic, moved that pile, it was loaded with nests, like a mouse high rise apartment building, also sealed up the exterior of the house, they will climb right up the brick to a hole in the soffit, then get in the attic. years ago, I watched during the evening, a hole where the electric service comes in, a dozen or so would come through each night, and at that time the place was infested, the field next to the house was overgrown, so many combinations of things, they just get out of control. I keep the surrouding area mowed, including the field, trimmed, perimeter of the house clean and accessible etc. and just with traps I can break the cycle, last year I killed 36 outside, then the traps went clean, nothing, spring, summer, to the current time, takes persistence, stay on them no matter what you use, sooner or later you will break the cycle, just keeping that field mowed, makes such a difference, they don't like the open space. Once I stop finding them in the vehicles, I don't find them in the house and so on.

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Bluedice

08-28-2006 21:49:29




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 Re: O/T Mice in reply to Billy NY, 08-28-2006 21:15:48  
Anyone on Coumadin for a venous clot or atrial fibrillation? That is what D-con is. aka warfarin. It is a powerful anticoagulant that (in humans) has about a 5 day delay in therapeutic effect.

It keeps a critter from being able to form a scab. Any scratch on the skin or knick in the intestine from eating something sharp, like wood or anything else a mouse can chew, will cause it to bleed to death. How fast (and how far they get) depends on the size of the lesion.

Not unlike improperly used antibiotics, d-Con overuse will select out resistant individuals for survival (who will reproduce). I have read that warfarin resistance has been observed (where I don't know probably in cities or grain storage areas).

I would think it would be OK in a barn but not OK in a house. Other critters eat it too like squirrels (saw quite a few of those dead in our barn growing up). Definately dangerous around the little ones.

Vitamin K is the antidote but it takes 12-24 hours to reverse the effect.

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dan67

08-28-2006 21:10:22




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 Re: O/T Mice in reply to Matt Kane, 08-28-2006 18:36:48  
I throw moth balls under the house in the crawl spaces and it seams to work in my case. I also throw them in the pump house and under the hay barn. Don"t if it works for sure but have no mices around here..



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Matt from CT

08-28-2006 21:00:23




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 Re: O/T Mice in reply to Matt Kane, 08-28-2006 18:36:48  
Prior to getting cats...

I got to the point of setting up a garbage can each night with a couple pieces of kibble in the bottom, and a wood ramp. Mice march up, fall in, can't get out.

Next morning the previous night's dishwater goes in the garbage can, can gets emptied out at the woodline.

I'd regularly get 2-5 mice per night!

So I got a free Mom & Daughter.

They did a real good job, then Daughter went out one day and refused to come in and became coyote food eventually.

Mom still catches, not as quick.

So I supplement Mother cat with a little plastic container (the very, very small shot glass sized Gladware ones) with a few mothballs -- tuck them in the back of my kitchen drawers. Keeps the mice out of them.

I still see the occasional mouse poop on the stove or counter, especially if I left a dirty frying pan or whatever out.

Followed a couple days later by a dead mouse on the kitchen floor :) Momma will get the mouse, she's just no kitten anymore.

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ILL John

08-28-2006 20:48:15




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 Re: O/T Mice in reply to Matt Kane, 08-28-2006 18:36:48  
"bounce" dryer sheets like you wife uses in the dryer will work, they don't like the odor or something.



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ILL John

08-28-2006 20:51:01




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 Re: O/T Mice in reply to ILL John, 08-28-2006 20:48:15  
Forgot to say, This keeps them out of the storage spaces on my sons camper, some "NASCAR" camping trick!!



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Mr. Bill No. Mn.

08-28-2006 20:11:36




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 Re: O/T Mice in reply to Matt Kane, 08-28-2006 18:36:48  
Stop feeding the cats. They get hungry and will eat the mice. Got one and haven"t had a mouse since someone let it off here.-Bill



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Old Pokey

08-28-2006 19:58:17




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 Re: O/T Mice in reply to Matt Kane, 08-28-2006 18:36:48  
If you have that many, I'd seriously consider getting some proffessional help with extermination the first time around. Then they can give you pointers on what to do to keep the rodents away. The good thing is, if you can call it that, is I was allways told that if you have mice, you usually dont have rats.

Since you have children is the reason I think a pro should be considered. Mouse fece is very hazardous, or can be, and those blasted mice can chew into house wires and believe it or not, into plastic plumbing.

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Hermit

08-28-2006 19:48:02




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 Re: O/T Mice in reply to Matt Kane, 08-28-2006 18:36:48  
Get some electronic rodent repellers and put them in and under the house. After a while, the mice will find somewhere else to live. I've used them to keep mice out of my shop and they work for me.



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IH2444

08-29-2006 07:18:37




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 Re: O/T Mice in reply to Hermit, 08-28-2006 19:48:02  
I have been using the electronic repellers for 5 yrs and no mice. Great little gadgets. I was eat up with the little buggers before I got the electronic repellers. Just give the repellers a clear field of fire, they won't work if you put furniture or something in front of them.



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R.J.

08-28-2006 19:20:03




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 Re: O/T Mice in reply to Matt Kane, 08-28-2006 18:36:48  
I got three old mother cats that stay outside and they keep me mice free. I see them with a mouse in there mouth quite often. Of course every spring I have a bunch of kitten to give away. If you have a crawl space you might consider posion.

My 2 cents



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John A.

08-28-2006 19:10:43




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 Re: O/T Mice in reply to Matt Kane, 08-28-2006 18:36:48  
Matt, Put the word out to all the neighbors, and townfolk you know. You need and will take cats for your barn and out builds. NO They Do Not Come In The House. Get 10 or so cats and by process of attriciation they will leave, become coyote food, and the like. And keep them around, DO NOT feed them fancy cat food, Feed them the same basic 'Ol Roy" you feed your Hinze 57 mutt, Again nothing fancy, or expensive.
As the cat population starts to dwendle down put the word out again for more cats and the cycle starts over again. Eventuslly you will get a core group of cats that are smart enough to avoid the dangers of country life and you won't need to beg for cats.
When the barn and out buildings quit smelling like mice then the problem is under control.
Later,
John A.

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hillbillyOH

08-28-2006 19:03:55




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 Re: O/T Mice in reply to Matt Kane, 08-28-2006 18:36:48  
If your cats aren't mousing, you're probably feeding them too much. Cut back on the cat chow -- way back -- and see what happens.



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R.J.

08-28-2006 18:55:57




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 Re: O/T Mice in reply to Matt Kane, 08-28-2006 18:36:48  
I got three old mother cats that stay outside and they keep me mice free. I see them with a mouse in there mouth quite often. Of course every spring I have a bunch of kitten to give away. If you have a crawl space you might consider posion.

My 2 cents



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Matt Kane

08-28-2006 19:04:17




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 Re: O/T Mice in reply to R.J., 08-28-2006 18:55:57  
I do have a small crawlspace. Maybe Ill try that. My wife had our sweetcorn seeds under the kitchen sink, well the little @#$tards got into the seeds. So I decided to set a trap there, guess what 2 mice in under 10 minutes. I hate these little critters.



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iowaW9

08-28-2006 19:44:22




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 Re: O/T Mice in reply to Matt Kane, 08-28-2006 19:04:17  
I have noticed on dairy farms that they usually have lots of cats around for mice control. It seems to me they keep them there by feeding them milk. But the cats want and need more to eat so they hunt for meat. And nothing hunts more than a mother cat.



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IaGary

08-28-2006 20:07:00




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 Re: O/T Mice in reply to iowaW9, 08-28-2006 19:44:22  
Also heard something about mice and milk.

Something about cat needing milk to balance out eating mice so they will eat more mice if they have milk.

Just what I heard.

Gary



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