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Andrew from KY

12-13-2005 18:40:27




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Has anyone priced fertilizer (N) for next year yet, and does anyone have predictions as to how high it's going to go?




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joe e-tx

12-14-2005 18:35:17




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 Re: Fertilizer Prices in reply to Andrew from KY, 12-13-2005 18:40:27  
had 30 tons of line put out today. was 25.00 for ever now 37.50 east tx.trying not to even think of fertilizer yet. but its got to be done.
joe



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Richard G.

12-14-2005 05:39:12




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 Re: Fertilizer Prices in reply to Andrew from KY, 12-13-2005 18:40:27  
I planted Austrian winter peas about 3 weeks ago on my next years corn land. I will plow them under before planting corn and will not put any N down at planting.



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Andrew from KY

12-13-2005 19:36:03




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 Re: Fertilizer Prices in reply to Andrew from KY, 12-13-2005 18:40:27  
I've heard that nobody is booking ammonium nitrate, and anhydrous is not available in this neck of the woods. The only applications around here for knifing liquid nitrogen into the ground is on tobacco, and some growers use it on their corn ground. Some people here in Scott County are throwing around the idea of hauling compost from commercial composters to spread on their fields. Don't know much about it or how well it could work myself but it's definitely a cheaper alternative. N prices will be factors in the acres of corn and tobacco grown next year also.

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barnrat

12-14-2005 04:41:21




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 Re: Fertilizer Prices in reply to Andrew from KY, 12-13-2005 19:36:03  
last seson triple 19 was $330/ton and urea was $384/ton. I usually use 2.5 tons of triple 19 a year on corn and about 22 tons of urea on grass/clover fields and pasture. I don't feel could manage my manure any better I also plant heavy amounts of clover. I still end up needing about 50 units of N/acre after each cutting to get 5 good cuttings. I've talked to the local mill and to my nutritionist and no one is even speculating on what fertilizer is going to cost next year. It sounds scary.

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Seth_ia

12-13-2005 19:15:25




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 Re: Fertilizer Prices in reply to Andrew from KY, 12-13-2005 18:40:27  
I might just be a dumb corn farmer, but why don't you look at other N sources. By my way of thinking NH3 is overpriced at $500/ton. However it is 82% N, which puts it at almost half the price of dry. I can understand that you might not want to knife into your grass hay, but liquid won't cost that much more per acre than NH3.



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kyhayman

12-13-2005 18:46:33




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 Re: Fertilizer Prices in reply to Andrew from KY, 12-13-2005 18:40:27  
$475 a ton for 34-0-0 on the spot market now, and none of my suppliers are willing to book it. Bulk ammonium nitrate may be very scarce, seems most new domestic will be bagged for safety and still none coming in through NO due to shipping infrastructure damage. For the first time in since I started farming on my own 2 almost decades ago I havent booked all my N. I just cant put it on hay at these prices, its going to be alfalfa and clover fixing N for me, or do without.

I was able to lock muriate at $285 and DAP at $325.

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WyoDave

12-13-2005 18:53:43




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 Re: Fertilizer Prices in reply to kyhayman, 12-13-2005 18:46:33  
Speaking of N fixing legumes. I've got a question for you. In our grass pastures, we corrugate them yearly. That is simply ditching them about 4-6" deep every 36" to allow for furrow irrigation. Do you know of any plant that I can plant in those furrows that will provide some N and increase forage value? I was thinking maybe I could rig up a way to plant when we corrugate and the plants will provide some N into the established grass pastures. It needs to be safely grazed wby cattle. I'm going to call the local Extension office, but thought maybe you might know of something worth trying?
David

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kyhayman

12-14-2005 20:49:37




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 Re: Fertilizer Prices in reply to WyoDave, 12-13-2005 18:53:43  
I'd think arrowleaf clover, medium red clover, or crimson clover. All will fix N, easy to establish and should do fine in you climate since you irrigate.



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KRUSS

12-14-2005 08:19:22




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 Re: Fertilizer Prices in reply to WyoDave, 12-13-2005 18:53:43  
I think sanfoin would work for what you describe.



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John (C-IL)

12-13-2005 18:41:36




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 Re: Fertilizer Prices in reply to Andrew from KY, 12-13-2005 18:40:27  
yes and no



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