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metoo d

07-17-2005 05:10:50




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Hi fellas. I have a super M D and the fuel tank leaks around the neck where you fill fuel. Can I solder that right on the tractor without any danger of fire or explosion?




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big fred

07-17-2005 13:45:38




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 Re: fuel tank/danger in reply to metoo d, 07-17-2005 05:10:50  
I had a leak in the tank on my old Volvo wagon, got some stuff at the auto parts store called "gas tank repair putty". It was a two-part stuff about the consistency of modeling clay. Mix the two, form it around the neck (or seam in my case) and let it sit for a couple hours. In my case, the tank was full and leaking, and it stuck good enough that I put another 80,000 miles on the car with no more leaks. Looked like crap, though. I suppose on a tractor tank you would have good enough access to smooth it out better than I did, though.

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JMS/MN

07-17-2005 09:35:15




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 Re: fuel tank/danger in reply to metoo d, 07-17-2005 05:10:50  
I would first try the JB weld. I used it on the bottom of an F2 diesel fuel tank many years ago when the internal baffles pulled the spot welds loose. It still holds now. I recently brazed a WF tank that had been removed, washed, and empty for weeks, but I still connected a live air hose to the bottom of the tank to purge fumes. Again, the spot welds had loosened enough on the mounting bracket that it was weeping.

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leland

07-17-2005 09:23:59




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 Re: fuel tank/danger in reply to metoo d, 07-17-2005 05:10:50  
your ideas remind me of Tim Taylor on home improvement look for a different tank or take it to a pro .



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Ed MacLaren

07-17-2005 09:06:03




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 Re: fuel tank/danger in reply to metoo d, 07-17-2005 05:10:50  
I have soldered gas tanks using an old-fashioned soldering iron. It is heated with a propane torch at a safe distance from the tank, and then brought to the job location when hot enough. Perfectly safe.

Ed



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Missouri Boy

07-17-2005 11:23:35




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 Re: fuel tank/danger in reply to Ed MacLaren , 07-17-2005 09:06:03  
I have done that several times myself except I have an old gasoline blowtorch for heating the iron. Works great even with the tank near full.



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Coldiron

07-17-2005 08:46:11




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 Re: fuel tank/danger in reply to metoo d, 07-17-2005 05:10:50  
Metoo, Get yourself a tube of Liquid Steel and goop it around the neck of the fill tube. I had a 6" split tank on a Jeep years ago and it solved the problem for the next 4 years I had the Jeep through hills and bumps. No danger from blowing up while you fix it and works ok. If it doesn`t last you can always go the other route for a fix.



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Mark - IN.

07-17-2005 08:24:02




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 You're joking, right? in reply to metoo d, 07-17-2005 05:10:50  
I'd like to think that you're joking. I really would.

My father died when I was 10, and sometimes he did some really questionable stuff. I remember him trying something very similar on a H once, and at the age of 7, 8, or 9 or so, even my brother and I knew to run like hell. After seeing us run, he put down the torch and re-thought out what he was about to do. Fortunately for him, or unfortunately for him, he died of an unexpected illness, not blowing himself up. I'd like to think that you're tossing a joke out for the gang to chuckle about, but I remember my brother and I running like hell, so you may not be.

If you're not joking, clean it, flush it, let the radiator guy braze it for you.

Mark

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Nor. Al.

07-17-2005 06:13:10




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 Re: fuel tank/danger in reply to metoo d, 07-17-2005 05:10:50  
the only safe way would be to clean out and flush all traces of fuel and then get some flexible exhaust pipe and run exhaust into it as you heat it. or take to a radiator repair shop if you are uncertain about it. Definitely don't do as you were asking!!!



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Missouri Boy

07-17-2005 11:30:06




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 Re: fuel tank/danger in reply to Nor. Al., 07-17-2005 06:13:10  
Running an exhaust tube into the tank IS NOT a safe way to do it. I have welded several with an electric welder using a stick electrode but now that the Lord has excused my carlessness I owe it to Him to no longer do that. The thing about the exhaust tube is a dangerous myth. I had rather risk building a fire of scrap paper at the filler neck and welding than to risk the dangerous way with exhaust of an engine. Ever hear of an engine popping through the exhaust? Also filling TANK WITH WATER IS ALSO A DANGEROUS MYTH!!!

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Nor. Al.

07-17-2005 14:31:12




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 Re: fuel tank/danger in reply to Missouri Boy, 07-17-2005 11:30:06  
I used to hang around a local radiator shop that one of my best friends owned and have seen his employees repair a good many gas tanks using the exhaust method , they never had an a blowup and I have never heard of anyone else having a problem using this method . my opinion



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Missouri Boy

07-17-2005 14:44:25




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 Re: fuel tank/danger in reply to Nor. Al., 07-17-2005 14:31:12  
Like I said taking no precautions have worked for me too but I am only here by the grace of God. I welded gas tanks and cut open LP tanks with a torch but you may get lucky like i was but eventually one may bang. Any method will work most times



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Nebraska Cowman

07-17-2005 05:36:01




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 Re: fuel tank/danger in reply to metoo d, 07-17-2005 05:10:50  
NO, anywhere you have fuel and heat you have danger. You might try fixing with epoxy such as jb weld.



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37 chief

07-17-2005 08:40:39




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 Re: fuel tank/danger in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 07-17-2005 05:36:01  
JB weld will work good. The area needs to be very clean, and dry. Stan



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Danny TAbor

07-17-2005 10:45:32




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 Re: fuel tank/danger in reply to 37 chief, 07-17-2005 08:40:39  
JB Weld works just fine. I would also treat the inside of it with gas tank sealant. Usually it'll take a few days out in the sun for the sealant to dry. May not be able to have the tractor out of commission that long?

Danny Tabor



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