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standard auto trans topic revisited

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buickanddeere

06-21-2007 06:21:04




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Blue3992 (N Illinois)

06-21-2007 14:45:22




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 Re: standard auto trans topic revisited in reply to buickanddeere, 06-21-2007 06:21:04  
Nice. Reminds me of the 80's sci-fi movie "The Philedelphia Experiment." Two sailors go through a time warp from WWII to the 1980's. One of them tries to steal a car (an automatic), but can't get it moving becasue "there's no clutch."

Seriously thought, I'm a firm believer in the fact that everyone should learn how to drive a manual. My Dad taught me how to when I was 16, even though my first car was an automatic. It's just a good skill to have in case of an emergency.

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CWL

06-21-2007 12:12:28




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 Re: standard auto trans topic revisited in reply to buickanddeere, 06-21-2007 06:21:04  
Great story. Who would've thought, but then after a moments reflection I can see it happening very easy. My dad taught both myself and my sister learn to drive on a stick shift. I remember she got frustrated with him so he sent her out to drive around in a forty acre hay field by herself for a couple of hours. She was in a '65 half ton with a small block and granny four speed. By the time she was done she had the clutch work down to a science! To bad not everyone has the option to do stuff like that with/to their kids.

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Billy NY

06-21-2007 12:12:07




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 Re: standard auto trans topic revisited in reply to buickanddeere, 06-21-2007 06:21:04  
Wow, well I kind of like it, it is a deterrent, unreal how a standard trans is fas becoming a thing of the past, well everything I own is a stick, except the lawn tractor !



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Don-Wi

06-21-2007 11:47:07




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 Re: standard auto trans topic revisited in reply to buickanddeere, 06-21-2007 06:21:04  
That right there is just plain funny as he11, I don't care who you are. I'm prety sure that all of us on this site atleast know how to drive stick, if not a little rough...

Donovan from Wisconsin



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cj3b_jeep

06-21-2007 10:45:13




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 Re: standard auto trans topic revisited in reply to buickanddeere, 06-21-2007 06:21:04  
I tried to get my wife to learn how to drive a stick, she panicked on the highway and nearly killed both of us. Nothing but autos for her.



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RN

06-21-2007 10:02:42




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 Re: standard auto trans topic revisited in reply to buickanddeere, 06-21-2007 06:21:04  
Not the first time something like this has happened- every see a woman who learned on a PowerGlide try to find reverse in a VW Beetle? As a point of info- some European countries issue restricted licenses to people who test with auto transmissions, restricted to auto trans only, may not get commercial license either until learn to drive with clutch. RN



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buickanddeere

06-21-2007 10:58:34




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 Re: standard auto trans topic revisited in reply to RN, 06-21-2007 10:02:42  
If we want to get real nastey. Lets put the unsuspecting driver into something manual with a "Three In the Tree" shifter.



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jdemaris

06-21-2007 13:00:42




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 Re: standard auto trans topic revisited in reply to buickanddeere, 06-21-2007 10:58:34  
Better yet - try the four on the column like Mercedes used to have in the early 60s.



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Uncle Ernie

06-21-2007 06:32:54




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 Re: standard auto trans topic revisited in reply to buickanddeere, 06-21-2007 06:21:04  
Try this. I worry about the young!



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dig

06-21-2007 06:54:18




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 Re: standard auto trans topic revisited in reply to Uncle Ernie, 06-21-2007 06:32:54  
I've said for the past ten years that a manual is a theft deterrent. I'm just amazed at the number of people that have no idea how to use one. I've even had car salesmen be totally flummoxed by them.



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D17 man

06-21-2007 09:03:35




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 Re: standard auto trans topic revisited in reply to dig, 06-21-2007 06:54:18  
yea i know what you mean. when i get my liscense im gonna drive my old 83 gmc 6.2 diesel with the 4 speed manual. it takes awhile to get use to driving it so a theif probably wont get to far with it



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Bob

06-21-2007 09:18:52




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 Re: standard auto trans topic revisited in reply to D17 man, 06-21-2007 09:03:35  
I'm currently occasionally driving an '84 with the same setup, and 3.42 gears. It SUCKS, as the 3.42 rear end, with no OD, has the diesel SCREAMING at 65 MPH, and the tranny's gear ratios are a POOR match for the engine's power curve.

I wish I had the time and $$$ to swap in an NV-4500. It would be INTERESTING to see how it would drive then.



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jdemaris

06-21-2007 12:59:13




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 Re: standard auto trans topic revisited in reply to Bob, 06-21-2007 09:18:52  
I've got two trucks with 6.2 diesels, 3.42 axles, and the factory four-speed manual with .73 overdrive (NP833). Spins around 1900 RPM at 65 MPh which is perfect for the 6.2 torque and efficiency curve. Also got a 1/2 4WD truck with NP833 four-speed manual OD and 3.08s - and it's my best mileage 6.2 on a flat highway but otherwise, the 3.08s and OD are a bit much for the low torque of a 6.2.



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buickanddeere

06-21-2007 10:14:36




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 Re: standard auto trans topic revisited in reply to Bob, 06-21-2007 09:18:52  
Wide ratio six speed out of a late 90's/early 2000's camaro or Firebird drops right in.



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Bob

06-21-2007 10:49:48




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 Re: standard auto trans topic revisited in reply to buickanddeere, 06-21-2007 10:14:36  
That fact it's 4X4 would make that a LITTLE more interesting!



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buickanddeere

06-21-2007 10:57:17




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 Re: standard auto trans topic revisited in reply to Bob, 06-21-2007 10:49:48  
Oh..... ..that makes a difference being a 4x4. There must be something manual with O.D. in a later GMC/Chev 3/4 or 1 ton truck that will bolt in?



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jdemaris

06-21-2007 13:03:44




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 Re: standard auto trans topic revisited in reply to buickanddeere, 06-21-2007 10:57:17  
GM had the New Process 833 four-speed manual with overdrive as original equipment with the 6.2s, right from the first year 1982 (for 1/2 tons).
Later years use the NV3500 five-speed with same OD ratio.



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