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Jim in NH

09-23-2004 04:37:39




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Hi Folks,

I'm looking at an AGCO 5660 tractor, which I understand uses an air-cooled engine, and will need to add a cab with heat. The cab data I've found however indicates that I can't add the heater with an air-cooled engine.

Is it reasonable to think I could put in an electric cab heater? Are there such things? Maybe need to upgrade the alternator at the same time?

Thanks,
Jim




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CJ

09-23-2004 12:38:45




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 Re: electric cab heater in reply to Jim in NH, 09-23-2004 04:37:39  
Trucks & equipment w/ air cooled engines used engine oil for heat,as Jon said.



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Jon H

09-23-2004 11:09:03




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 Re: electric cab heater in reply to Jim in NH, 09-23-2004 04:37:39  
The 12V heaters do not put out enough heat to keep you warm. seems I remember a combine with aircooled engine(Gleaner ?) that used a heat exchanger that used the hot engine oil to heat the cab.



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JHesler

09-23-2004 10:48:46




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 Re: electric cab heater in reply to Jim in NH, 09-23-2004 04:37:39  
How about a propane furnace from a small RV trailer. They sell even smaller ones boats.



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darrel (nd)

09-23-2004 09:05:30




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 Re: electric cab heater in reply to Jim in NH, 09-23-2004 04:37:39  
I run cranes for years and thay had porpane or fule heaters in them and all it takes is 12 volts to mahe them run



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Allan in NE

09-23-2004 08:21:01




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 Re: electric cab heater in reply to Jim in NH, 09-23-2004 04:37:39  
How's about one of those 12 volt in cab car heaters?

They still sell those things?

Allan



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Rod F.

09-23-2004 07:59:06




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 Re: electric cab heater in reply to Jim in NH, 09-23-2004 04:37:39  
I once worked on a small wheel loader with a Hatz air cooled engine. The cab was heated with a propane heater. IT is generally not easy to tap into the air box of those engines, if you could. Personally, i would not want to heat a cab like that. Think of the stray combustion gases (stink tube etc.) blowing in your face. Propane is not that expensive.

Rod



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ChrisL

09-23-2004 06:00:15




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 Re: electric cab heater in reply to Jim in NH, 09-23-2004 04:37:39  
Just because the engine is air cooled does not mean it doesn't get warm. run a little duct work to pass air over the exhaust manifold to gain heat and heat the cab with that air.....

or make a small water circulating system and run the water around the exhaust manifold for some super heat....



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Mark - IN.

09-23-2004 20:52:25




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 Re: electric cab heater in reply to ChrisL, 09-23-2004 06:00:15  
Chris, you're exactly right. Seen many a tractor in the winter time where the engines wear shrouds, ducted back to the cab, and the radiator fan forces the heated air back. TSC advertises such a shroud in their catalog - the only thing missing is a cab with windows to open to vent fumes and to cool one off as they're pushing snow around in their T-shirt because sometimes gets a little too warm in the cab. Need a cheap cab? Angle iron, flat bar, and plexiglass work just fine behind such a shroud.

Got a fan on that air cooled engine to move heat off of it? Mount one, it'll help in the summer months too.

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TheRealRon

09-23-2004 05:15:28




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 Re: electric cab heater in reply to Jim in NH, 09-23-2004 04:37:39  
There are high-output aftermarket alternators that are used typically for welders and produce 120v. Many off-road fanatics use them. You could just plug in a milk house type heater.

See



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