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Kestrel

06-06-2007 18:42:52




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Can anyone ID these two old ladies ? They sit about 50 feet off a state road a few miles from my house. Today I finally remembered the camera.

Been driving by them for several years now. It would almost seem disrespectful to restore 'em. They're kinda pretty, just sitting there, chilling, and looking content.

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KEH

06-07-2007 16:31:46




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 Re: Retired Iron-pic in reply to Kestrel, 06-06-2007 18:42:52  

My Daddy had a Fordson. Pulled a 2 disc Oluver plow and an Oliver smoothing harrow, which I still have the remains of. Tractor and plow are gone and I have no nostalgia for the tractor. Daddy did the fire under the crankcase trick also. I drove the Fordson a little bit, probably one of the few people on here to drive one as part of trying to make a living. I may have started to school at that time. The 1942 Case S Daddy got which I still have was a much better tractor, but he should have got a 8n Ford so we could have used it to row crop with. Of course, probably the 9n was all that was availiabe then and according to reports the 3 speed transmission did not have enough gears for good field work.

KEH

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Walt Davies

06-07-2007 07:31:22




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 Re: Retired Iron-pic in reply to Kestrel, 06-06-2007 18:42:52  
I think that anything that is that old should be at the least cleaned up and painted so it won't just rot away and be gone. there are to few of the old tractors left to just see one rot in a yard so someone can have a little yard art. I should talk I have two JD horse drawn movers doing just that.
Walt



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Kestrel

06-07-2007 07:43:21




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 Re: Retired Iron-pic in reply to Walt Davies, 06-07-2007 07:31:22  
You're darn right. I've been sitting here thinking the same thing. I just may go out and give that person a thinly veiled but diplomatic admonishment.

To think of these relics sitting out in rain storms & blinding blizzards is starting to bother me; Class A felony neglect of old tractors I say.



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Maine Fordson

06-06-2007 22:35:56




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 Re: Fordson Yard Art in reply to Kestrel, 06-06-2007 18:42:52  
Those are Fordson Model F tractors, which were made in the Detroit area from 1918 through 1928 and rated as 10-20. Assuming that the fuel tanks are original to the tractors (and that's assuming a lot, since the tanks rusted out easily and were often replaced by donor tanks from junkers), the near tractor was made after 1924 and the far one (the grey one) was made before then, probably in the 1920-24 timeframe.

Also, the Model F was only manufactured with steel wheels; the far tractor (the grey one) has F&H (French & Hecht) aftermarket rims on it that permitted the use of pneumatic tires for a smoother ride & that wouldn't chew up road surfaces while traveling from one job to the next. Can't tell from the pics if the front wheels also have F&H rims also. Too bad to let those nice rims rot into the ground (a Fordson collector would probably give you a $300 or more for a full set), but folks love their yard art... Additionally, if those fuel tanks are anywhere near restorable, a collector would probably pay around $200-300 for one of them.

Lastly, it's kind of curious why only the hubs are painted on the near tractor, and yellowish-white to boot. That tractor left the factory with bright red wheels.

As for the worm drive in the rear, it was originally on the top half of the rear axle, but the heat rising from it while using a tractor prototype made sitting in the seat very uncomfortable, so the design was changed.

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Kestrel

06-07-2007 06:08:21




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 Re: Fordson Yard Art in reply to Maine Fordson, 06-06-2007 22:35:56  
You sure nailed that. I've never seen a soul around that place. I suspect the original owner maybe sold to a workaholic type city person who may be indifferent to their history and value. If I see anyone around, I may just have to pull in and inquire.



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j105

06-06-2007 20:27:46




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 Re: Retired Iron-pic in reply to Kestrel, 06-06-2007 18:42:52  
did these things have a worm gear in the rear end? my grandfather said they were sure hot to ride on, you could light your cigar on the side of the gear case. probably pulling his grandsons leg a bit.



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charley hellickson

06-06-2007 23:05:58




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 Re: Retired Iron-pic in reply to j105, 06-06-2007 20:27:46  
Hi j105.
Your grandpa told you right, no leg pulling. My dad told me the same thing, got the hot butt driving a Fordson. They were worm gear drive. My father-in-laws's family had one, spent more time pulling it with a team of horses trying to start it than getting any work done with it.
Thanks. Charley.



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Walt Davies

06-06-2007 19:33:56




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 Re: Retired Iron-pic in reply to Kestrel, 06-06-2007 18:42:52  
Here's one that resided for years on Grampa's farm.
Walt
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dds-inc

06-06-2007 19:19:03




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 Re: Retired Iron-pic in reply to Kestrel, 06-06-2007 18:42:52  
My grandfather (at age 93) often wonders why ANY of those stupid fordsons aren't in the scrapper yet.

I'm telling you, take it from a man who drove one about 85 years ago.



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Kestrel

06-06-2007 20:08:01




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 Re: Retired Iron-pic in reply to dds-inc, 06-06-2007 19:19:03  
I just Googled Fordson and found this amusing method of cold starting them, which probably helped form your grandfather's opinion.

"It had to be hand cranked repeatedly with great effort. Strong men took turns cranking between intervals when individual ignition coils were adjusted. Sometimes farmers would build a fire under the tractor to warm up the crankcase and gear boxes to make it crank easier."

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dds-inc

06-06-2007 21:05:14




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 Re: Retired Iron-pic in reply to Kestrel, 06-06-2007 20:08:01  
"ANY place where there is a Fordson is no place for a preacher to be within earshot"

-my grandfather.



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NEIADan

06-06-2007 18:50:38




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 Re: Retired Iron-pic in reply to Kestrel, 06-06-2007 18:42:52  
Those are definetely Fordsons. I agree some nostalgia just needs to sit and reminisce. We have a John Deere M sitting in our lawn with blacksmith steel wheels on it. The tractor was actually used on an amish farm in Mexico (country). Now it resides at piece only 65 miles from Dubuque, IA where it was built.



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Dug G.

06-06-2007 18:46:12




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 Re: Retired Iron-pic in reply to Kestrel, 06-06-2007 18:42:52  
Looks like a pair of Fordsons from the 20-30"s.



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