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Fordson Series F Torque Specs.

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Rusty

03-10-2004 20:27:05




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I am in the process of putting my 24 back togeather and do not know the head torque and manafold specs. can you help? PS- The head is high compression, if that makes a difference.Also would like the tighting sequence
for the head bolts.




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Theman

03-15-2004 08:03:21




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 Re: Fordson Series F Torque Specs. in reply to Rusty, 03-10-2004 20:27:05  
Rusty, the manual doesn't list any torque specifications. Very few farmers had torque wrenches in the teens and twenties. My copy of the manual states the following about replacing the head:

"In replacing the cylinder head clean the surfaces on the cylinder head and turn the motor over so that No. 1 and No. 4 pistons are at top dead center; place the gasket in position over the pistons and then put the cylinder head in place. Be sure and draw the cylinder head cap screws down evenly (i.e., give each a few turns at a time)."

As you can see, very general. A local bolt/screw supplier can give you the recommended torque for the diameter and pitch of the bolt. I have a bolt torque chart here at work - but I have no idea of the nominal size of a Fordson head bolt. If you wish to email the size to me, I can look it up for you. I'm not sure whether they are made with fine or coarse thread since I've never removed the head from my '23 model F.

As to the sequence, start in the center of the head between the #2 and #3 spark plug holes and work out from there following a circular pattern. Set the torque wrench around 50% of the final torque and snug the head down - following the circular pattern. Repeat the sequence at around 90% and then again at 100%. Re-torque at 100% again after running the engine up to operating temperature. Do this final torque AFTER the engine returns to room temperature.

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The Man

03-18-2004 08:53:40




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 Re: Re: Fordson Series F Torque Specs. in reply to Theman, 03-15-2004 08:03:21  
Thanks for the infomation on torque specs. I will get back to you when I get the size of the bolts for the head & manifold.



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RUSTY

03-20-2004 04:57:53




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 Re: Re: Re: Fordson Series F Torque Specs. in reply to The Man, 03-18-2004 08:53:40  
To: "Theman" I found the head bolt Specs. ,they are
Cylinder head cap screw F- 157A, 1917thru 1926
S-202 1/2"X 35/8"x13 thds. However I dont know the SAE grade. Is this the information you need to determine how much torque to apply for there instalation ?



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Theman

03-25-2004 07:21:39




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Fordson Series F Torque Specs. in reply to RUSTY, 03-20-2004 04:57:53  
Suggested tightening torque for a standard steel (black finish) ½-13 oiled thread is 1800 in-lbs which equates to 150 ft-lbs. This number is for clamping hardened steel plates. A gasketed cast iron head on a low compression engine requires a bit less. If it were my '23 Fordson, I would torque them to 120 ft-lbs and follow the procedure outlined earlier in this post. I'd keep an eye out for leaks around the head gasket and check the coolant for bubbles after starting (before it gets hot enough to be steamy) for the next 4 or 5 runnings.

Something else on the market that Henry didn't have in the 1910's is a copper based gasket spray. I have used it on other engines with very satisfactory results and would certainly use it here.

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Rusty

03-27-2004 09:52:10




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Fordson Series F Torque Spe in reply to Theman, 03-25-2004 07:21:39  
Want to thank you for your help on the head torqe specs.
Does the same apply for the manifold?



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Theman

03-29-2004 08:06:54




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Fordson Series F Torque in reply to Rusty, 03-27-2004 09:52:10  
The manifold studs are shorter and the force bears against unsupported webbing between the ports. This should not be over-torqued or breakage could result. I don't recommend more than 50 ft-lbs initially. In fact, if it were my tractor, I'd use a short handled ratchet and not lean on it at all. I would side on the risk of a gasket leak than a broken manifold casting. Keep in mind that this area is exposed to a lot of cold-hot-cold cycles making it more critical that the manifold isn't over-stressed.

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Rusty

04-08-2004 15:15:54




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Fordson Series F To in reply to Theman, 03-29-2004 08:06:54  
I dont know what I Would do without the help of you knowledge tractor fellows THANkS again RUSTY
I am running out of R`s so I will say see ya.



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