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KEITH

03-08-2003 21:05:51




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I HAVE JUST PURCHASED A FORDSON TRACTOR SERIAL # 172683. THIS TRACTOR IS DARK GREEN IN COLOR, HAS NON-CLEATED REAR WHEELS WITH 1' EXTENSIONS. THE FRONT WHEELS ARE ALSO EXTRA WIDE. I HAVE SEEN ADS WHERE THIS TYPE OF WHEEL WAS USED ON GOLF COURSES, ETC. WHAT IS THE CORRECT COLOR? I WOULD LIKE TO RESTORE TO ORIGINAL COLOR. ENGINE SER # DATES THIS TRACTOR AT 1921, BUT THE DASH HAS THE MULTI PATENT DATES ENDING AT 1923. HOW CAN I DETERMINE CORRECT DATE? ALSO AM HAVING TROUBLE WITH THE CLUTCH. IT APPEARED TO BE STUCK, BUT AFTER TAKING CLUTCH APART-SANDING PLATES-REASSEMBLING CLUTCH IT STILL IS NOT ALLOWING TRACTOR TO ROLL WITH TRANS IN GEAR AND CLUTCH ENGAGED. ANY INFO IS APPRECIATED.

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steve welker

03-12-2003 20:03:46




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 Re: CORRECT COLOR in reply to KEITH, 03-08-2003 21:05:51  
I'll try to answer your questions as best as I can one at a time.
I also have a Fordson without cleated wheels and the wide front wheels. These are indeed golf coarse wheels made by Whitehead and Kales (W&K)if they are like mine. My front wheels are about 1 foot wide and use the standard fordson wheel centers with the spokes bent out and welded to the wide rims. The rears most of the time have 6" extensions but I have seen pictures of ones with 12" extentions. This months(March/April) antique power magazine has 2 pictures of tractors with these wheels on page 45. Dating a fordson can sometimes be quite a chore, as many parts could have been changed over the years. Also Henry Ford never made model year changes, just running production changes when ever old parts were used up. The dash with a 1923 pattent date is actually at least a 1925 part. In 1925 dates of august 7th 1923 and august 28th 1923 were added along with a kill switch at the bottom of the timer quadrant. These were the last patent dates added to a american fordson dash. One way to help determine if this is indeed a 1921 with a replaced dash, is to search for casting dates on other parts. Front timing covers, rear axle housings, oil pans and even rear end worm gears often had casting dates up thru 1922. There was no standard locations you just have to search. There are many small differances very numerous to list, if you could send a few pictures to me I could give you my best opinion based on what parts are on your tractor.
I ofen here about clutch problems from many fordson owners. I know of two ways to fix this, but have only tried the one way myself. The first way (the way I've done it) comes from a service buliten published in england in the early 1970's. It describes curving or bowing the 9 plates with external notches 3/16". If all plates are perfectly flat they tend to stick together and not release. I've followed this method with great sucess. One drawback is that sometimes while trying to bow these plates they crack in half because the have been over heated an hardened over the years. It's a good idea to have a few spare plates. The other method I have heard of is to actually remove one plate from the assembly. This put less pressure on the plates and makes it release easier. I've never tried this, but have talked to 4 or 5 people who swear by it. I guess if your not going to work the tractor hard you will probally never have a problem. 2 final notes on the clutch, heavy worm gear oil in the rear end (not just 85-140) as originally used helps give resistance to stop the tractor. I use castrol HD worm gear lubricant 680 (part #66417 for a 5 gallon bucket). Also starting in 1923 fordsons had a transmission brake. If your dash was changed maybe a brake was added. While pushing in the clutch you may be also appling the break not allowing it to roll. Also an improper adjusted brake will not allow the throwout bearing to release the clutch all the way.
Finally the correct color is grey with red wheels. Actual correct shade varys with personal opinion, and I'm not sure if anyone could prove what is totally correct. Knowing Henry he painted it whatever was cheaper that month.
I rambled on for enough now, hope I was of some help. If you have more specific questions or would like any info, I'd will be glad to help in way I can.
-Steve

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