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1927 Fordson model F

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James Saari

02-22-2003 10:44:55




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I own a 1927 Fordson model F that is in pretty good shape other than for the ignition and fuel systems - I have pretty much given up on restoring the original ignition system, am thinking about replacing it with a magneto from any 4 cyl engine such as Wisconsin, Internationals etc, and running a belt or chain from the cam shaft to the magneto.. I have been told this will work - any comments - as for the fuel system, will any down draft carb work that comes reasonably close to matching the manifold.
Any comments appreciated - Jim - jams@lakedalelink.net

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Steve Welker

03-07-2003 18:28:44




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 Re: 1927 Fordson model F in reply to James Saari, 02-22-2003 10:44:55  
I agree with ADAM, it would be much easier to use the "buzz" coils. If you do not want to split the tractor to recharce the magnet or redo the coils there is another option. I use a 4 to 6 amp-hour, 12VOLT lead acid trailer break-away battery in the tool box on one of my tractors with a bad internal mag. This setup will start far better than almost any mag conversion. Most of the time I leave the ignition switch off, and crank the tractor over 4 or 5 times to suck fuel into the cylinders, then hit the switch and most of the time it starts itself! If you want info on testing and tuning your old coils I can email this to you also. Between my brother, Dad, and I we have 8 fordson "F" models running great on the original coils!
A good running carb replacement for a fordson is a 1 barral card from a 52 thru 64 ford 6 cylinder truck engine. This carb is very low profile and depending on your type manifold will bolt right on. other manifolds are easy to make an adapter plate. Most of our tractors run fine on original carb setups, but sometimes original parts are hard to find, and we have used this style carb with great success! If you would like I could send you pictures of this carb mounted on our tractors. GOOD LUCK -Steve

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CDMN

03-05-2003 17:11:08




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 Re: 1927 Fordson model F in reply to James Saari, 02-22-2003 10:44:55  
I haven't done this, but it would seem that you could get the front cover and parts off an N or E27N and have both a high tension magneto mounting and a governor. Another possibility is to get a magneto set-up off a Ford 2N and adapt it. I'd like to try a multi-coil hightech electronic ignition setup that could be hidden somewhere.



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Steve Welker

03-08-2003 06:34:10




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 Re: Re: 1927 Fordson model F in reply to CDMN, 03-05-2003 17:11:08  
The front cover is not the only differance on an "N" or "E27N" model. The Block is also different, as it does not extend around the cam gear. This would require alot of cutting and welding of the block to make this swap possible. Also I guess a 2n mag could be fitted but would also require alot of modifing and machine work. One option that would be a bolt on, and is availible new, is a Model "t" distributor conversion. This is a conventional points dist. with standard coil, but would require adding a battery. This dist. is availible thru MACS in Lockport NY (www.macsautoparts.com) -Steve

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Bernie

02-27-2003 18:15:20




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 Re: 1927 Fordson model F in reply to James Saari, 02-22-2003 10:44:55  
I bought an old Fordson back in the 60s that had a "sidewinder" mag on it, which had stripped gears. I took the whole casting off the front of the engine, sawed the end off to expose the shaft, mounted it on a plate beside the radiator, and ran it chain-drive off the camshaft. It worked good and I used it for years. The cam sprocket needs to have twice as many teeth as the mag sprocket.HTH



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Roger WI

02-26-2003 12:02:24




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 Re: 1927 Fordson model F in reply to James Saari, 02-22-2003 10:44:55  
Jim-- Have you found a carb or heard what other options you have for your tractor yet. I to was interested in finding a carb that would fit my 1920 until I find enough parts to make it original. Thanks Roger



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ADAM

02-23-2003 19:20:51




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 Re: 1927 Fordson model F in reply to James Saari, 02-22-2003 10:44:55  
I believe it would be easier to restore the original ignition system than trying to retro a different mag on to the tractor. All the ignition parts: coils, coil box wood panels, panel fingers and hardware can be purchased from any model T vendor. The only big job might be splitting the tractor to recharge the magnets on the flywheel.
A properly maintained fordson ignition system on my fordsons always starts on the 2 or 3 pull. If you still want to go with the mag ignition there were several aftermarket vendors that made a "sidewinder" magneto system with a bracket that mounted over the commutator cover and was driven of the cam with a gear. I have seen these on E-bay
as well as swap meets, would be better than a chain driven system.
hope one of these suggestions if useful to you.ADAM

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