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Steve

09-22-2000 02:44:59




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I am planning on getting a tractor to move some dirt(Tennessee rocky clay) on a small farm and found a Dexta Diesel in my price range. Not sure of the year but it had a big bumper on the front. The ole Girl ran smooth (after a shot of ether) and she will be a looker with a fresh coat of paint and a little TLC. My question is... will this tractor pull or push a 5' box scraper and will I be able to find parts when needed? A guy that was trying to sell me a 8N was talking bad about the Dexta's and said good luck finding part's for the Tractor. Would I be better off to get a 8N or something like that since the prices are about the same?

Much thanks

Steve

P.S. If I get the ole girl, Ya-all will be hearing more from me I'm sure :)

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Brian

09-24-2000 02:45:32




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 Re: DEXTA in reply to Steve, 09-22-2000 02:44:59  
Steve,
One of the misaprehensions that seems to occur over there is that the Dexta engine is a Perkins. It is NOT. The engine is a Fordson engine that was made for them by Perkins. At the time it was produced, the Perkins engines all had chain drive timeing and not the gear drive as in the Dexta. The Perkins engine also had more complicated and expensive lub and fuel systems.

Ford specified things like the fuel pump and the oil pump and insisted that Perkin's name was removed from all parts supplied by them. All the casting were made at Dagenham and shipped to Peterborough for final finishing and assembly.

The parts were supplied on a "just in time" basis with only enough parts held by Perkins to complete one days supply of engines for Dagenham production.

Perkins used the information gained from the co operation with Ford to develope future engines that were sold to MF and others.

Some components from Perkins outlets will be the same but your best source of parts would be your Case/New Holland dealer.

The Dexta is a brilliant little tractor. In my area, in a very short while when new, it replaced most of the Fergusson TE20 types. It was only when Ford replaced it with the awful 2000 and 3000 tractors that these other types came back into the reckoning.

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Brian

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Burrhead

09-29-2000 06:10:00




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 Re: Re: DEXTA in reply to Brian, 09-24-2000 02:45:32  
Brian the engine was and still is a Perkins. Ford quit using them when Ford demanded rights to exclusive use of this engine and Perkins refused to give that control to Ford.

At the same time of the disagreement on exclusive use Massey was using this engine and has contined to use this engine. If you'll check a 231 Massey Ferguson they still use the 152 CID Perkins today on them. Somebody has given you bad info on this.

If you carry your engine serial number to Perkins, Massey or Ford, either one can supply engine parts, but the best and most economical parts source is still going to be Perkins Diesel.

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Brian

09-29-2000 11:18:10




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 Re: Re: Re: DEXTA in reply to Burrhead, 09-29-2000 06:10:00  
Sorry Burrhead but your information is wrong. The engine was badged the F3 series because of the Ford imput. This engine was a joint venture and Ford made the majority of the parts at Dagenham. The reason that they stopped using the engine was two fold. Perkins became part of Massey Ferguson and Ford introduced the thousand series.
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Brian



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Burrhead

09-29-2000 13:58:21




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: DEXTA in reply to Brian, 09-29-2000 11:18:10  
No problem here Brian. I know I'm not wrong and I respect your opinions. It don't make a hill of beans either way as to which came 1st, the chicken or the egg.

The way I see the deal tho, was when Ford and Ferguson split apart that Massey kept the Perkins as it's engine, and Ford fought to keep it for themselves.

Ford pitched a fit because they wanted exclusive use, and Perkins would'nt go with that idea.

Ford did'nt make or break Perkins. Perkins had been building engines since in the mid 30's, Ford was just another outlet for their product. Ford thought it could badger and force Perkins into getting in on the exclusive deal on a particular engine and it backfired on Ford.

If you'll check it out today. Tafe, and IMT are doing the same thing that Ford did years ago. They pay patent and royalties to Perkins and on some engine styles have bought the patent rights and manufacture their own engine and parts in Romania, and Bulgaria. They also use outdated generic Bosch and Simms injector pumps on the same deal.

These hostile take over deals are'nt anything new today, Ford was trying it at least 40 yrs ago. It just did'nt work.

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Don

09-23-2000 18:47:42




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 Re: DEXTA in reply to Steve, 09-22-2000 02:44:59  
Expect that a Dexta would handle a box blade. I have a 59 Dexta with backhoe and bucket which was worked hard and put away wet for many years. Eventually I'll get it running again. Perkins people no help for parts, I stopped into their regional HQ in Florida and they had extreme difficulty even finding the engine model much less any parts. DON'T use ether! Hope that you decide on the Dexta, I'm sure that parts are available (although Perkins is very proud of their parts{price})

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ger

09-22-2000 08:47:54




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 Re: DEXTA in reply to Steve, 09-22-2000 02:44:59  
I have and work with both tractors. The 8N is a sweetheart but the Dexta is a more muscular version of the 8N. The extra weight, power,dual range transmission and live PTO make it more useful than the 8N. Getting parts is not a problem so far. Ether is a BAD thing to use on these engines though. Find a way to start the thing without ether.



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Jack.C

09-22-2000 04:51:35




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 Re: DEXTA in reply to Steve, 09-22-2000 02:44:59  
Hello Steve!

I don't know much about tractor but when I look for buying one I decide to choose the dexta because, all the 8N I've seen had no choice between Low and high gear and there was no live Hydraulic on them, but I seen only two of them ,
I guest it doesn't mean it is the case for all of them. Also I have my dexta for about only one month and so far I did had any problem to get parts (changed fuel pump membrans and fixe hydraulic). perkins company still exist and if you keep looking here, there is always guys like Burrhead or Brian (fordson lovers) to help you with the fixing. So far I had only good thing to say about this tractor and those guys.it is also a very strong tractor.

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Jack.C

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