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Changing fluids /trans. hydrolic

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Houston

05-01-2000 12:51:45




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Have Fordson Super Major Diesel, trying to change fluids in trans., hydrolics, and final drive. All use the same fluid. A total of approx. 19 Gal. Question, Where are the fill plugs located. Can only find one at the rear left side of the trans. This port only take 11 to 12 gallons to fill to the high level mark on the dip stick. Can not locate any other fill ports. I have approx. 7 gals. to put some where.

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Brian

05-01-2000 13:14:47




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 Re: Changing fluids /trans. hydrolic in reply to Houston, 05-01-2000 12:51:45  
Hello Houston you've got a problem :-) (sorry, just watched "Appolo 13")
The filler you are trying to locate is just in front of the clutch pedal with the level cast into the houseing. Check your capacities though, my book gives 4.5 imp gallons (20.43 litres) for gearbox and 9 imp gallons (40.91 litres) for rear axle. I realise that you are possibly working with a different measure but it still sounds high.
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Brian

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Brian

05-02-2000 13:59:10




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 Re: Re: Changing fluids /trans. hydrolic in reply to Brian, 05-01-2000 13:14:47  
Brian, Houston still has a problem. Thanks for your help. However, the fill plug that you described is where I filled the hydraulic and final drive,(rear axle). The volume that I put in matches up with the numbers that you gave, about 10.8 US Gals. for this area. However, there must be a seperate fill plug for the gearbox since the 10.8 gals. that I have put in filled the hydraulic and final drive,(rear axle)unit to the high level mark on the dip stick. This dipstick is located on top of the transfer case and near the clutch and the fill plug. The gearbox must have a seperate fill port to add the remaining 5 to 6 gals. Thanks for your help.

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Brian

05-03-2000 11:30:53




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 Re: Re: Re: Changing fluids /trans. hydrolic in reply to Brian , 05-02-2000 13:59:10  
Houston,
If you have filled through the plug infront of the clutch you have filled the gearbox. The rear axle is a seperate unit and is filled from a plug at the rear near the hydraulic lift cross shaft. The rear axle is drained from a plug right in the centre of the tractor between the rear wheels. Its at the centre of a plate held on with four bolts. This is the hydraulic filter. It is this oil that appears on the dipstick that you are checking. Have you drained the rear axle as well as the gearbox? The gearbox drain is a square plug on the PTO housing.
If you have done all this correctly see John's post below.
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Brian

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John from SD USA

05-03-2000 20:28:16




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Changing fluids /trans. hydrolic in reply to Brian, 05-03-2000 11:30:53  

Houston, I'm afraid by the time you read all these posts that you can go out to your tractor if it is parked on level ground and add some more oil to your transmission. After another day or so you will soon use up your extra oil supply. Then you will pull out the dipstick and say, "Wow, where did all that oil come from?" That is if you did not drain the rear axle where Brian specified. If you had drained that and removed the plate I hope you cleaned the hyd filter and it was in good condition. If your Super Major is the same as my Major, it has a fine metal screen affixed to the oil suction tube. Mine had been dirty and contaminated too long. It collapsed on itself and I could not reshape it into its original form. I also could not purchase a new one so I just left out the screen and put the plate back on and filled with fresh oil. Seems that the transmission (I only know FMD) should hold 5 US gallons, the rear axle 10. I'm afraid it sounds like your tractor may have the same problem as my Major. If that is so, the final result will be something like your trasmission holds 2.5 gal and your rear axle holds 12.5

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John

05-02-2000 13:42:49




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 Re: Re: Changing fluids /trans. hydrolic in reply to Brian, 05-01-2000 13:14:47  

One of my Majors does have a problem. The seal between the trans and rear end is no good. The oil runs from the trans into the rear end so that the trans is always low and the rear end is high on oil. (The trans is physically higher than the rear end and the oil equalizes is what I am saying.) I park the tractor heading down into a ditch. The oil goes back and fills the trans but it doesn't stay there. Gears 3 and 4 are especially "growly" 1 and 2 to a lesser extent. A neigbor drove it to pull my bigger tractor and it slipped out of 3rd. He might not had it fully in gear, that has never happened to me. I run it the way it is. I know that is not good but if I tore into it to fix how far do you go and where do you stop? I only gave $1000 US for the tractor. It doesn't owe me anything. Has been this way for the 6 years I have owned it. I only carry bales, post hole digger, hay rake, etc with it. No continuous heavy pulling. Use 5th gear 90% of the time. Engine uses a little oil but I think that is mostly leaks. If it had a major engine breakdown I probably would junk the tractor.

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John (SD USA)

05-02-2000 13:53:02




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 Re: Re: Re: Changing fluids /trans. hydrolic in reply to John, 05-02-2000 13:42:49  

Since there is a fellow John posting here also I shall identify myself as John from South Dakota USA! I replied to the posts on brakes and gas/petrol.



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