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Fordson Wheel Upgrade

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Skyahwk Greg

04-29-2006 13:59:44




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Hello again, Another question. After starting and driving a Fordson F for the first time, it quickly became apparent that it would be a good idea to try to address the steel grouser issue on concrete floors. I am assuming that the angle iron pieces that are riveted onto the rear wheel rims are called grousers.

Does somebody already manufacture something to go over the rear grousers and the front rim knife edges to make them more road friendly?

My thoughts so far, are that possibly wood could be bolted to the three holes in each grouser. Maybe even a piece of hard rubber. Another idea is to take some 2" rubber hose, slit it lengthwise, place it over each grouser, and bolt it into place.

Any ideas?

Thanks. Greg

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Theman

05-02-2006 13:17:04




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 Re: Fordson Wheel Upgrade in reply to Skyahwk Greg, 04-29-2006 13:59:44  
To answer your question, there isn't a readily available pad for the grousers. I had to resort to having a piece of 6" wide X 3/8" thick flat stock rolled to the diameter of the outside of the wheel (including the grousers). They are attached to the center hole on every other cleat with pieces of angle iron. The steel bands were then covered with conveyor roller lagging (rough-top baler belting) and epoxied in place. Two benefits of this approach was that the wheels are still original and the ride became so much smoother. I can now push the tractor around in the shop by hand and don't worry about damaging anything it is driven over at shows or in parades.

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Skyhawk Greg

05-04-2006 14:15:28




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 Re: Fordson Wheel Upgrade in reply to Theman, 05-02-2006 13:17:04  
Theman - You wouldn't happen to live in northern Ohio would you? If so, I'd be interested in having the same shop make up another set just like yours. Having done it before, the second set may be easier to fabricate. Did you wrap the band around the wheels first, bolt the attachment angles in place, and then field weld the attachment angles to the rims? Or was it calculated out first, welded in the shop, and then attached to the rims? Did you do anything for your front wheels? Thanks.

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Theman

05-06-2006 05:35:50




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 Re: Fordson Wheel Upgrade in reply to Skyhawk Greg, 05-04-2006 14:15:28  
I'm in East Texas. My bands were rolled at a local sheet metal shop then I took them home and fitted them individually. The wear was different on the two wheels so I did as you first mentioned. It took several clamps to keep things lined up. The attachment angles were spaced out from the cleats (grousers) a bit so they could be drawn up tight after welding. Each wheel took a whole day to fit since the bands had to come back off several times. Perhaps if I were a better welder...

The front wheels are banded also. For that, 1/4" X 2" flat stock was used. Threaded rod was used to attach them. That was the gap between the halves of the flanges where the spokes were riveted. The band material was drilled and tapped mid-way between the spokes - again working around the wheels. Due to the thin cross-section of the hot-rolled flat stock, they were not rolled ahead of time, just formed around the wheel. The threaded rod was nutted on the inside of the rim on 5/16" flat washers then sawed off flush on the outside. Sometimes the tap had to be run down between the halves because they were bowed together somewhat. At the ends, the rods are 2" apart. These bands were also lagged with belting material. Care must be taken when turning sharply because the outside wheel tends to lean out and it can shred the edges of the lagging. Front-end geometry and good old-fashioned wear are probably the cause of it.

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Skyhaw Greg

05-06-2006 15:19:51




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 Re: Fordson Wheel Upgrade in reply to Theman, 05-06-2006 05:35:50  
Theman - Thank you for the detailed description of what you did. I found a local shop that can do the rolling. Hopefully things will turn out well. Thanks again!



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Butch Howe

04-29-2006 18:54:03




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 Re: Fordson Wheel Upgrade in reply to Skyahwk Greg, 04-29-2006 13:59:44  
Why don't you consider putting it on rubber? Just a matter of getting some rims from an English Fordson. The hubs are exactly the same. Another avenue is to weld your spoke centers into modern rims.



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Skyhawk Greg

04-30-2006 08:39:30




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 Re: Fordson Wheel Upgrade in reply to Butch Howe, 04-29-2006 18:54:03  
Hi Butch, I thought about getting some rims with rubber tires on them. On E-bay there was a nice Fordson with rubber tires on round spoke wheels, and this would have looked very nice, but between the other Fordson being in NY, and my being in Ohio, and the fact that I am very new to the whole Fordson world, I passed up on it. Maybe some similar rims will show up at a show here in Ohio. As for turning the existing rims into cutoffs, I would like to keep the tractor as close to original as possible. I expect to be alive when the tractor reaches 100 years old, and, by then, there may not be too many of the old steel wheels left. Just a guess on my part. This makes your idea of an alternate set of wheels a good way to go. If you happen to know of a set of round spoke rims near Ohio, I would be interested. Thank you.

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