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lucas 12 volt generator ?? super major

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maplehillfrm,pat

03-10-2006 11:13:05




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Ok I finally got the super major out of the storage building and into the shop, well its at least nout of the storage building, needed a jump assistance but I knew that was coming,,started fairly easy for not having run all winter,, heres the question, I removed the generator,cleaned it up it was covered in oil, I need major gasket work,, it is a lucas 12v generator,, #22715H 12v,,underthat is C 40 21 69,,{the 0 could be a C is has a rivet over it},,made in england,,, there was also a tag from I believe a rebuild shop, wilson reman. #22703F..

I got it on the bench to motor test it,, {the pulley rotates freely with no load,,has a little play in and out less than 1/8"},,I proceeded to hook the hot to one of the two tabs on the back of gen, and ground to the gen,, the pulley locks up can not move it,, tried the other tab and the same thing,, will move freely by itself but not when testing to see if it motors,, what next??

One more question on the fuel line, that comes from the tank to the primer button thing a ma jig,,it was leaking and I couldnt tighten it so I remeoved it, the bottom where it was leaking only has a normal ferrel where it tightens to the part, the top also has a ferrel but it looks tapered not just rounded, do I need the same type for the bottem, and where can I get them any auto store?? thanks sorry so long,pat

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ricedaddy

03-15-2006 18:46:30




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 Re: lucas 12 volt generator ?? super major in reply to maplehillfrm,pat, 03-10-2006 11:13:05  
Pat,lucas 12V gen part #22715H... $135.00 new Plus shipping
rlp2690@aol.com



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maplehillfrm,pat

03-11-2006 09:13:53




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 Re: lucas 12 volt generator ?? super major in reply to maplehillfrm,pat, 03-10-2006 11:13:05  
Ok ,, seems I keep answering my own questions, This one I cant, would the 12 volt genny still be positive ground??? going to reinstall, probably will need a regulator too, but will find out ,,



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answered 1 of my own ?,

03-10-2006 16:45:32




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 Re: lucas 12 volt generator ?? super major in reply to maplehillfrm,pat, 03-10-2006 11:13:05  
well hello again, I decided t o rip the generator apartm, after finding a way to I t hink correctly test for motoring, jumper the 2 wires and then touch to power, well that way I got a little hum and the pulley wanted to try to turn, ,, I took it apart and found a few things, someone has been in here before, as one of the wires that go to the brushes was crudely repaired and taped together,, and the windings on the case the covering is starting to detereriate,, do I need a new generator or just a rebuild kit, and where do I get a rebuild kit for this gen with these numbers. thnaks pat

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w400

03-11-2006 00:39:41




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 Re: lucas 12 volt generator ?? super major in reply to answered 1 of my own ?,, 03-10-2006 16:45:32  
try e-bay UK search under fordson tractor there are often new dynamo/generators of the C40 type for sale including new parts and new generators.



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maplehillfrm,pat

03-11-2006 09:05:11




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 Re: lucas 12 volt generator ?? super major in reply to w400, 03-11-2006 00:39:41  
thanks I will try that ,, I put it back together today after tinkering on it, repalced some wires,a nd put it back together, I get it to motor ok now,, still need a bushing on the bottom tho they welded the pulley I think it is out of round alittle,thanks



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Yugrotcart

03-11-2006 13:59:53




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 Re: lucas 12 volt generator ?? super major in reply to maplehillfrm,pat, 03-11-2006 09:05:11  
Had my Lucas generator rebuilt by the local generator shop, about$200.00. Short of that, you said it has a "Wilson" tag on it. The are a rebuilder in Winnipeg Manitoba and as far as I know, there are still in business, even a web site I believe.



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maplehillfrm,pat

03-11-2006 14:55:10




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 Re: lucas 12 volt generator ?? super major in reply to Yugrotcart, 03-11-2006 13:59:53  
well you are right on the money with wilson, I remember seeing winnipeg on the tag I think, I think I got it going , I havent hooked anything up yet because i need rto make sure it is supposed to be pos ground, I have a book, but we just moved into this new house and I cant find it yet, pat



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Yugrotcart

03-11-2006 15:23:30




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 Re: lucas 12 volt generator ?? super major in reply to maplehillfrm,pat, 03-11-2006 14:55:10  
Check your battery and cables, larger post is positive. If battery was disconnected, just see which cable goes to ground, cable with the clamp spread widest is pos.



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maplehillfrm,pat

03-11-2006 18:58:23




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 Re: lucas 12 volt generator ?? super major in reply to Yugrotcart, 03-11-2006 15:23:30  
yeah, I knew that, it was hooked up as positive ground, that is the way I got it, I thought my book stated it was supposed to be 6 volt pos ground like my N's.{except 2 batteries}.I wasnt sure if the 12 volt genny was supposed to be pos. ground as well, thanks pat



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