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Re: Hard Starting PowerMajor

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Miles

12-17-2004 13:31:19




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I will stop at NAPA on the way home today and see if they have any magic deglazing chemicals...
and then think of a way to abuse the "old girl" and give the engine a work out.

I want to revisit the question about the "max fuel adjustment". If this was adjusted improperly, would this impact starting? It clearly did where it was used to adjust idle speed.

How would you check adjustment?




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sandymac

12-17-2004 14:59:27




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 Re: Hard Starting PowerMajor in reply to Miles, 12-17-2004 13:31:19  
fuel pump, i know i say this for any problems it seems, but one of my super majors would NOT start if cold unless a whif of ether was used, .I used this super Majors pump on my newly rebuilt power major, and it was excactly the same, no go if cold..tried a known good pump on both tractors and they both started instantly.. having a Good known functioning spare fuel pump is a godsend at times. Rules out stacks of other possible problems in one go.
Sandy

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Mark 1

12-17-2004 18:30:49




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 Re: Hard Starting PowerMajor in reply to sandymac, 12-17-2004 14:59:27  
I think the term is seating of the rings in the USA.I have no problem pulling the head off and looking into the bores to see if they are clean and shiny, but it might be something you don't feel comfortable with.You might leave this for a mech.An additive probably will not fix this.A proper honing of the bores(or new sleeves, ouch) and another set of rings might be the only cure.Best to let it smoke, is my advice, if this is the case.

There is also the valve guides and seals question on the head?More than likely it is the rings than this area but you never know???

Also a word of caution when tinkering with the injection pump, if you do something wrong it could cost you the whole motor.Check the lift pump by cracking the bleed bolt on top of the fuel filter, if it is the original style, and see if fuel flows while cranking the motor.You can use the compression relief lever on front of the valve cover if you have one while turning the motor over.My lift pump has a "priming lever" on it and I use this instead of turning over the motor with the starter.

Also maybe Majorman and Sandymac can advise you on checking the cam timing.It is something I have not yet done to my small fleet.The injection pump timing would not be correct if the cam timing is off even if you set it to 23 degrees.

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Miles

12-18-2004 08:27:04




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 Re: Hard Starting PowerMajor in reply to Mark 1, 12-17-2004 18:30:49  
Removing the head is not a problem but I think you are right about engine needing hard work.

A couple other ideas came to mind about the hard starting...

1. When I had the engine apart to change pistons/rings I replaced the head gasket with a composite type whereas the original was copper. Would this make enough difference in compression?
Also what are your views about reusing head gaskets? NH said the copper type gasket was no longer available.

2. What about leak back thru the lift pump? There is no visible signs of leakage but maybe internal? I purchased a new pump for another tractor and will try that.

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Majorman

12-19-2004 00:45:48




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 Re: Hard Starting PowerMajor in reply to Miles, 12-18-2004 08:27:04  
Leave well alone. It is certainly not the type of head gasket or the fuel lift pump as you do not have to bleed it to get it to start.

Do not re use head gaskets as this will lead to other problems like oil in the water or visa-versa.

Lack of hard work or a serviced injection pump at a reputable service agent are the most likely answer to your problem. I would try the easy one first, a run on a dynamometer could sort things out if you have no hard work.

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sandymac

12-18-2004 15:28:58




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 Re: Hard Starting PowerMajor in reply to Miles, 12-18-2004 08:27:04  
1) no,
2) almost certainly no.
does it start ok when warm?
still reckon fuel pump is a major contender (no pun intended).
Sandy



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Blue

01-22-2005 21:53:42




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 Re: Hard Starting PowerMajor in reply to sandymac, 12-18-2004 15:28:58  
My Power Major has a similar problem will only start with fuel button in hot or cold. Start straight up no probs with button in . Engine A1 condition . No smoke Just a bit of black smoke under load. Fuel system appears OK. No work done on it through.



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