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FE35 timing hole

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Mark64

03-18-2008 15:13:05




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Hi

I have read other threads on this forum that there are 3-4 timing marks/holes on the flywheel.
However I can only find one in my FE35.

Can anyone verify that FE35 only has one Timing Hole?

If so what does it indicate? (x deg. BTDC)




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Jerry/MT

03-21-2008 08:38:58




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 Re: FE35 timing hole in reply to Mark64, 03-18-2008 15:13:05  
What engine does your tractor have? Is it Continental Z134? If so, I don"t believe you have to remove the starter to time it. Can"t help you with the timing spec. You really need an owners manual or a shop manual to give you the specs and the methodology.



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Mark64

03-21-2008 10:02:13




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 Re: FE35 timing hole in reply to Jerry/MT, 03-21-2008 08:38:58  

Hi Jerry

Sorry, Im not sure what motor it is, other than "a gasoline"-one.

However I set the breakers gap and adjusted opening to 1 deg BTDC
Dismatled/cleaned my starter
Dismatled cleaned the carburettor
Adjusted carb with standard settings
Checked plugs for BFT (Blue'ish Fat Spark) ...and fired right up (!).

Due to the lack of procedure, I know stand without the knowledge of what the fault was, but alas a happy man. :)

(I suspect though, a grounded coal in the starter)

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Mark64

03-21-2008 10:07:52




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 Correction BFT should be BFS in reply to Mark64, 03-21-2008 10:02:13  
BFS : Blueish Fat Spark

Sorry Jerry. After all you pretty much invented the term.

:)



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Jerry/MT

03-21-2008 15:37:12




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 Re: Correction BFT should be BFS in reply to Mark64, 03-21-2008 10:07:52  
Should be FBWS i.e. FAT, BLUISH-WHITE SPARK. I think the timing you set was a little too retarded. The tune up specs on your left of this page say the -35 should be set to 5 oBTDC.



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Mark64

03-20-2008 08:46:53




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 Re: FE35 timing hole in reply to Mark64, 03-18-2008 15:13:05  
Ok I found everything was set very close to the values you mentioned.

The engine nb is 3068 and the distributor was at 1 deg BTDC.

The reason for checking is because the tractor won startup after 1 yr of standing still.

Im working my way through , starting with ignition; and going on now to the fuelsystem.
(I notice a small stream of gasonline dripping from the air intake-tub)

Thanks for you instructions !

Regards

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phil(va)

03-20-2008 14:17:56




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 Re: FE35 timing hole in reply to Mark64, 03-20-2008 08:46:53  
"Small stream of gasonline dripping from air intake tub" is almost always gonna be a sticking float. In other words, she"s flooded.



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John (UK)

03-19-2008 10:57:47




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 Re: FE35 timing hole in reply to Mark64, 03-18-2008 15:13:05  
There is only usually one hole for timing the engine.You can see the timing marks on the inner face of the flywheel if you remove the starter. It should give TDC for the firing stroke of number 1 piston. If we knew what your engine was we could give you the correct number of degrees the setting should be on the Pump or distributor...John



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Mark64

03-19-2008 11:56:13




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 Re: FE35 timing hole in reply to John (UK), 03-19-2008 10:57:47  
Thanks for your answer John.

The Tractor is a gasoline FE-35 (SGM29830).

So if I want to check the distributor timing, I would need to remove the starter?



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John (UK)

03-20-2008 06:10:56




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 Re: FE35 timing hole in reply to Mark64, 03-19-2008 11:56:13  
You need to reset the points to .015"
No need to remove the starter, use a 1/4" round bar in the timing hole under the starter, but make sure that number one cylinder is on compression when it slots into the flywheel. You can check if it is on compression stroke by removing the spark plug and placing your finger over the hole. Once the bar drops into the flywheel, check that the distributor rotor is pointing to number one cylinder plug lead on the distributor cap. if you look at the points they should be just at the point of opening at this time. if they are not about to open then the distributor timing needs resetting. To do this leave the bar in position and if you look at the distributor base where it attaches to the drive housing, you will see a scale marked with a "R" and a "A" and there is a screw between these two points. and between these two points, the scale is marked with short lines, each division between the lines equals 2 degrees distributor timing. There are two versions of this engine but as I don't have your engine number I will have to list both. Up to engine number SF3818E it should be 1 deg BTDC/ after engine SF3819E it should be 5 deg BTDC. It will depend on your engine number as to whether the distributor is now set on the scale to 1/2 way between the centre and first marks on the scale or 1/2 way between the third and fourth mark on the scale. If you cant get this adjustment on the scale then you need to slacken the clamp that secures the distributor to the engine and then turn the distributor until the scale is then within range of the adjustment, by setting the timing on the scale to what it should be first and then turn the distributor until the points are just about to open, then tighten up the clamp. To double check the adjustment when everything is correct the points should be just about to open when the distributor is set correctly. You can if need be use a timing light on the marks on the flywheel to double check, just mark the flywheel at the correct point and then highlight the corresponding mark on the engine block, then run the engine and the two marks should be in-line if it is set correctly, if it isn't you can slacken the distributor at the clamp, not the scale, and turn it until the marks on the flywheel are correct and the you can tighten the clamp again, you now know that the distributor is set correctly and after that if you wish to alter the timing just slacken it off at the scale and turn it slightly to whatever you need. The engine number which you will need to get it right is stamped into the block between the oil filler and the HT Coil.Hope you can follow all that....John

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Mark64

03-20-2008 06:35:30




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 Re: FE35 timing hole in reply to John (UK), 03-20-2008 06:10:56  
John

Thanks for an excellent thorough description.
I will check it accordingly soon, and return with my result just to close the thread properly.

again thanks !



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