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Belt Lacing

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Alex MacEwing

02-27-2008 11:57:49




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Need some help from some of the more experienced folks on this site. I am trying to reconstruct a buzz saw on my TEA 20-85. My drive belt came with what appears to be two very worn nails holding the two ends together. Many years ago I recall my Dad, calling that material, "cat gut". At that time I had never seen spaghetti,but I believe it looked similiar. My question is ...would heavy duty , wiper snipper line work, say .090 ....??

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Bob (Aust)

02-28-2008 04:53:54




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 Re: Belt Lacing in reply to Alex MacEwing, 02-27-2008 11:57:49  
Alex. If it looks like this:

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It will be a Ferguson Cordwood Saw.



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Alex MacEwing

02-28-2008 04:49:04




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 Re: Belt Lacing in reply to Alex MacEwing, 02-27-2008 11:57:49  
Gents, I believe I was successful at posting a picture on the implements site...l8tr alex



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Alex MacEwing

02-28-2008 04:12:23




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 Re: Belt Lacing in reply to Alex MacEwing, 02-27-2008 11:57:49  
Man, what a response, this site is unbelieveable. Perhaps I wasn't totally clear on my question. First of all let me assure you, I am aware of the concerns with belts coming apart. Time spent around a 32" Bell threshing machine, gives one some insite.
From Jeff's posted picture I now will refer to the "baler belt fastener", once they are crimped on the end of the correct length belt, what is the common material used to push though the fingers (fasteners)?? Does one use the correct size metal wire (approx 1/8" dia)?? I was afraid of wearing down the wire fasteners, so thought a softer than metal rod would be better. I will check my local TSC store and see what they sell to go with the fasteners.

If all else fails, I will visit one of my local Amish farms and check out their equipment.

Once I figure out how to post a picture on here, I will post a pic of this saw. I believe it is homemade, but the workmanship is excellent. However unlike the originals, (which I can't find for sale, here in Ontario) this saw has a sliding table, which almost completly covers the saw blade until you push the wood/table past the blade, at which time the blade guard then moves out of the way.

Seeing as it is below 0 F, here this morn, I have a few days to figure this all out..... thks for all the response....keeping warm.. Alex

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Jeff-oh

02-28-2008 09:30:05




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 Re: Belt Lacing in reply to Alex MacEwing, 02-28-2008 04:12:23  
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I see what you are saying now...


The new easy way to post a picture is to use the new "Advanced Posting Tools" Look below the "Preview your reply" buttons.

All you have to do is click the upload photo and follow the steps (same as over in the galleries section). Pretty slick.

Here is your photo... I used the Select Gallery Photo button..... Me like the new tools.

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ferg0ne

02-28-2008 03:28:57




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 Re: Belt Lacing in reply to Alex MacEwing, 02-27-2008 11:57:49  
I bought a Ferguson buzz saw for $50.00 it came with the belt and the pulley ,I dont think that it had a belt guard the way it was built and the belt is not that long.The belt lace can be bought at CNH. Good luck



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Bob (Aust)

02-27-2008 21:03:41




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 Re: Belt Lacing in reply to Alex MacEwing, 02-27-2008 11:57:49  
Alex. Re thinking your question and looking at my saw belt, I suspect the catgut will pull stright through the belt under load and wiper snipper cord won't take the load as it is designed to break in tension.

At 1,018 RPM on a 9 inch pully, the belt speed is 2,400 feet per minute or 27 MPH. If the belt lets go, it would be very dangerous if there is no belt guard.

I strongly urge you to use the correct belt fasteners, recommended by Jeff.

Bob in Oz

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ROB B

02-27-2008 13:05:54




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 Re: Belt Lacing in reply to Alex MacEwing, 02-27-2008 11:57:49  
IF YOU CANNOT REPAIR IT,I HAVE THE SAME TRACTOR. I HAVE 2 EXTRA PULLEYS AND A BELT I WOULD CONSIDER SELLING.ALL IS IN GOOD CONDITION.



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Bob (Aust)

02-27-2008 12:43:58




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 Re: Belt Lacing in reply to Alex MacEwing, 02-27-2008 11:57:49  
Alex. Are you referring to the Ferguson Cordwood Saw, A-LE-19 or A-LE-A20 and Ferguson belt drive?

"Catgut" is fishing line and still available. I suspect it is far stronger than wiper snipper line. I would not use either, sounds very dangerous as if it lets go you will have a belt snaking everywhere. At 1,500 engine RPM, (545 PTO RPM) the pulley speed is 1,018 RPM.
Indeed, many Cordwood Saws now have belt guards installed.

Why not use the correct metal belt connector? They are available and not expensive. If you are not sure what they look like I can post a photo from my Cordwood Saw belt if it would help.

Bob in Oz

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