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Cold weather issues '59 TO35 Deluxe

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Dean, Logan Ohi

02-20-2008 10:39:58




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I have a blade mounted on the 3 point for snow plowing our long drive. During cold weather (+ 25F or colder) when I start and attempt to scrape the drive the blade raises to full up and will not go down regardless of control lever position. I have had to use a torch to warm the transmission and hydraulic valve below the seat. After I get it all warm it operates OK. The 2nd problem related to the cold is steering. I can turn right to the max but to turn left it will only go about 3 or 4 degrees from center. The tractor is parked outside covered by a tarp for easy access during winter. Starting is not a problem but I sure could use some ideas to correct this.

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Dean Logan Ohio

02-23-2008 15:56:12




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 Re: Cold weather issues '59 TO35 Deluxe in reply to Dean, Logan Ohio, 02-20-2008 10:39:58  
Thanks for all the help guys. I drained some water out of the trans and that took care of the three point not going down. I did not find any drain or fill plug on steering box. Looks to be lubed from trans/hyd system. What I did find was a water pocket in left front king pin. When I pushed in some new grease some water was expelled. have not had either problem since.
Dean



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Randyr

02-22-2008 07:17:28




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 Re: Cold weather issues '59 TO35 Deluxe in reply to Dean, Logan Ohio, 02-20-2008 10:39:58  
Where is/are the drain and fill plugs on the steering boxes?
A picture would be great.
Thanks.



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Fred T. Hart Jr.

02-20-2008 18:23:07




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 Re: Cold weather issues '59 TO35 Deluxe in reply to Dean, Logan Ohio, 02-20-2008 10:39:58  
I would warm the tractor up good, may have to put it in a heated garage to get transmission warm in this weather.

Drain transmission oil, let it drain overnight if necessary.

Buy proper MF transmission/Hydraulic oil, do not put some cheap oil in the tractor. Takes about 8 gals. @ $38 per 2 1/2 gal container. Hope this solves the lift issue, if not you will need new oil anyway when mechanic goes in to fix problem.

Question:
Does steering work properly on a warm day, if so suck out steering gear lube and replace with proper MF steering box lube. Have heard of some using John Deere corn head gear grease in steering box.

However, you many have one side gears adjusted too tight or you have worn gears. Be careful, this gearbox if often overlooked until there is a problem. Be sure you have lube in gearbox, heard on one when he unscrewed fill plug it looked like it was full of lube, but was only old lube stuck to top of gearbox, when he punched through lube stuck at top, gearbox was empty of lube.

Good luck,

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Dean Logan Ohio

02-20-2008 15:59:37




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 Re: Cold weather issues '59 TO35 Deluxe in reply to Dean, Logan Ohio, 02-20-2008 10:39:58  
Thanks guys,I think the water in oil may be it. Checked the fluid and it is a bit milky.
I don"t have power steering so that"s not the problem.



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phil(va)

02-20-2008 17:13:31




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 Re: Cold weather issues '59 TO35 Deluxe in reply to Dean Logan Ohio, 02-20-2008 15:59:37  
Water can get down the steering to the bearings and cause problems even with no power steering.



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NJ howie

02-20-2008 11:50:45




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 Re: Cold weather issues '59 TO35 Deluxe in reply to Dean, Logan Ohio, 02-20-2008 10:39:58  
my freind had ford 600 under a tarp for six years the condensation had got in the motor and trans did alot of damage.make sure your tarp can breath underneath so what i'm thinking is you have water in your trans that's frezing up check your dip stick for milky colored oil



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Jerry/MT

02-20-2008 11:39:12




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 Re: Cold weather issues '59 TO35 Deluxe in reply to Dean, Logan Ohio, 02-20-2008 10:39:58  
What does your hydraulic fluid look like? If it"s a creamy color you have water(condensate or leakage around the shift boots))in the fluid that is freezing around the control valve. The valve will move forward to raise the blade but can"t move rear ward to lower the blade until the ice thaws.
Replacing the all the fluid ad refilling with fresh fluid should fix it. Alternately,letting the tractor stand in a warm building and then draining off the lowest gallon with the most water and adding a gallon of specified oil might solve the problem in the short term.

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Balatonm

02-20-2008 11:21:04




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 Re: Cold weather issues '59 TO35 Deluxe in reply to Dean, Logan Ohio, 02-20-2008 10:39:58  
Assuming that you have power steering, there could be an obstruction in a power steering line or in the steering piston.

The Hydraulics I don't know, it could be several things.



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