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1953 TO-30 won't turn over

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Shirlsaw

10-16-2007 09:51:17




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Had some battery issues - put in a new 6 volt. First try at starting got the normal repeated "chuga chuga" turnover and it coughed once like it would start - but didn't. Next try and every one thereafter only a half of a weak "chuga" then dead silence. It has spark, has compression, we pulled the starter but that is fine. Cables seem snug. Looking for any thoughts on what to try next.




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Shirlsaw

10-23-2007 03:53:35




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 Re: 1953 TO-30 won't turn over in reply to Shirlsaw, 10-16-2007 09:51:17  
Thanks for all the input. Problem was the new battery was too weak and my old charger was not charging right. Anyway I learned some good info and appreciate the help. Got it running last night after putting a new charger on the battery.



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marlowe

10-16-2007 18:33:28




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 Re: 1953 TO-30 won't turn over in reply to Shirlsaw, 10-16-2007 09:51:17  
do you still start it with the gear shift? if so under the battery is the switch i had two go bad in the last week jump across the terminals to test



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mark from the fort

10-16-2007 16:51:59




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 Re: 1953 TO-30 won't turn over in reply to Shirlsaw, 10-16-2007 09:51:17  
won't solve your starter problem, but if you want to hear her run, jump with a 12 volt battery. Remember, 6V (yours) is probably (negative) ground----sooooo, when you jump her, put NEGative from 12v battery on actual starter post and POS from 12v battery on frame/radius rod. Do this with key switched to "on" position, when she fires, pull off pos. clamp immediately. Usually the faster turning will fire engine. WARNING: if she doesn't fire after 8,9, or 10 revolutions. Remove clamp and allow starter to rest. 12v on your 6v starter is fine for SHORT periods.
My 6 volter did much the same as you describe, even with an 8volt battery. I wired brushed ALL connections related to ignition, moved ground down to a starter bolt. Pulled starter and wire brushed mating surfaces, Replace battery cables with 00 guage (welding cables).
Did much better, however, still would "hang up" sometimes when rotating-had starter shop rebuild starter $75.00 and all together I have a TO 35 that pops to a start on second turnover.
Best of luck, Mark

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Jerry/MT

10-16-2007 13:02:12




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 Re: 1953 TO-30 won't turn over in reply to Shirlsaw, 10-16-2007 09:51:17  
If your starter won"t rotate the engine, check your battery and your battery connections.MAKE SURE THE BATTERY IS FULLY CHARGED. Make sure the connections are "bright and tight". They tend to get dirty and corroded and corrosion acts like a resistance to the current flow. The started switch can also have burned contacts or need adjustment. If that doesn"t fix your problem, you may have to replace the brushes in the starter and clean the commutator.

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gshadel

10-16-2007 14:46:34




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 Re: 1953 TO-30 won't turn over in reply to Jerry/MT, 10-16-2007 13:02:12  
I agree with Jerry, make sure that battery has a good charge. Just 'cus your battery is new, don't mean it has a 'good' charge. 6volters don't move as fast as 12volters, that battery may have been sitting on the shelf a while. When Jerry says make sure your connections are clean & shiny, the most important connections in this case is the ground lug to the back of the dash, and the connctions to the starter switch and to the starter. Your starter is grounded thru the mounting bolts. If they are all corroded/painted = poor ground. Your 6V system is more sensitive to corrosion than 12V systems. Might want to either move the ground from the dash to a starter mounting bolt, or pull a starter mount bolt & shine-up the starter housing, bolt, lockwasher, and block where it bolts down. If you suspect the starter switch is not giving you good contact, you can... carefully try bypassing the switch by touching the battery negative lead right to the starter terminal to see if that gets your starter churning. I'm assuming you have positive ground, which is normal for a stock 6V TO-30.

George

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Jeff-oh

10-16-2007 11:32:52




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 Re: 1953 TO-30 won't turn over in reply to Shirlsaw, 10-16-2007 09:51:17  
Check the fuel supply. Pull the drain plug on the carb. Use a bucket, and the full should be a strong free flow of gas. "lika a cow pissin' on a rock" as someone just described it.

If it is not check the upstream fule system. elso start checking the carb settings and perhaps a carb clean and rebuild. But I get a little ahead of myself.



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