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A few basic maintenance questions.

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Lance J.

06-06-2007 09:57:31




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Hey guys, I need your opinions on some things I have been wondering about my Z134 powered T0-35. First, do you all generally use lead substitutes in your tractors? I know that leaded fuel was in general use at the time these tractors were new. I don't think the low compression ratios of these engines demands it, but I am concerned about having eventual valve trouble due to unleaded gas. I get my gas from a local Exxon station, and I know its one of the best sources in my locality.
Also, how many hours do you all go between oil changes? I have been changing the oil and filter every 15 hours. I'll probably continue to do so, but I'm just curious as to when everyone else does it.
Finally, does the long tube running down the side of the block from the valve cover function as a simple vent for crankcase pressures, as a pcv valve does on a later engine? Is there supposed to be some sort of filter element or check valve in it(mine has neither)? Are there any maintenance issues associated with it?
Thanks everyone, have a great week!!

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gshadel

06-06-2007 14:34:23




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 Re: A few basic maintenance questions. in reply to Lance J., 06-06-2007 09:57:31  
Lance, don't waste your money on lead additive. Your low compression engine don't need it. That wivestale floating around that lead addititve is necessary lube your valve guides or protect your valves is pure horse-crapola being promoted by the folks sell'in the stuff.
Most gas nowdays is blended with a little ethanol to oxygenate and reduce smog. That won't hurt your TO either.
I probably run my TO-20 ~30 hrs/month in the Summer, and as needed to push snow in the Winter. I change my engine oil every Spring, whether it needs it, or not. I churn-up a lot of crud brush hogging, so I do clean & change the oil in my air filter cup about once a month in the Summer. I'm feel'in a little sparky today...You did not ask the fire & brimstone question "what kind of oil is best to use in my TO?" Some guys say use straight 30W non detergent, some guys say multiweight, that is pretty much your call. With oil technology nowadays, it's pretty hard to go wrong, even the oil at the cheap end of the aisle is going to be fine. I been using multiweight oil in my TO since I got it in '99. I've been using 15W40 Rotella for the past few years cus' I get a pretty good price buying it in big jugs and also use it in my somewhat leaky '83 diesel pickup truck. Next time I swap-out the tranny oil in my TO... I'll probably put the same 15W40 in my tranny, sounds like that is a viable replacement for the old standard GL-1 mineral oil that is in there.

George

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Lance J.

06-06-2007 14:21:03




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 Re: A few basic maintenance questions. in reply to Lance J., 06-06-2007 09:57:31  
Thanks guys, I'll be sure to get the manuals you all suggested. I take it those would be the ones listed on this website for the TO-35.



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Jerry/MT

06-06-2007 11:51:30




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 Re: A few basic maintenance questions. in reply to Lance J., 06-06-2007 09:57:31  
All these questions are answered in the owners manual and the shop manual for your tractor. You really should invest in them because they contain a wealth of info on the systems and how they are supposed to function and how to maintain and repair them. Best investment you can make for your tractor. And tractor maintenance is more than just oil and filter changes. Until you get the manuals, the recommended oil change interval on my TO-30 is 100 hours and the filter should be changed every 200 hrs per the Ferguson Shop Manual. Your Z134 engine is a close relative of the Z129 that's in my TO-30 so I doubt that there is any difference in the regular maintenance requirements. I change my oil about every 50 hrs and i use the tractor regularly on the ranch.
You do not need to use lead substitutes in you unleaded gas.
The crankcase draft tube has no filter or check valve. There is an oil separator (some lovered vents internally.) to prevent oil droplets from exiting the tube from the rocker splash.
You might try and archive search and see what other people do.

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Gerald J.

06-06-2007 11:41:17




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 Re: A few basic maintenance questions. in reply to Lance J., 06-06-2007 09:57:31  
Unless you plow hard 500 hours a year, the added valve wear from no lead fuel won't be offset by the plug replacements caussed by the lead additive. And many lead additives aren't really that. Just some motor honey to catch your spending money. Modern gasolines wildly exceed the octane requirments of the vintage tractor engine. My MF-135 manual says only use good gasoline that doesn't ping. Says the Z-134 engine has a 6.6:1 compression ratio.

Most vintage tractors run about 100 hours per oil change, though they also call for once or twice a year when you don't do all 100 in a year. More important is running the engine long enough and with a proper thermostat to get it hot enough to boil off the condensed water and combustion products that have slipped past the rings.

The crankcase vent tube is open as it was on cars and trucks of the era. There is no valve, the PCV valve vents to the air intake so fumes get burned to reduce emissions. If you want to reduce emissions, you could plumb that tube to a filter at the air filter housing. The big problems are keeping that tube open when its exposed to dust, mud, and the home building instincts of muddaubers and wasps. The oilly fumes deter them a little but when parked for long periods they will build and block it. Then pressure can build inside the engine to force seal and gasket leaks.

When you have maintenance time you might want to look at the rocker arm assembly to be sure the corks haven't rotted out of the ends of the rocker arm shaft taking oil pressure off the rocker arms which leads to rapid wear. The oil passage to that shaft is dependant on that shaft not twisting off the location pin and then shutting off the oil flow.

The original owner's manual would answer these questions too and show how to use all the tractor's capabilities to your best advantage and safety.

Gerald J.

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