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Carburetor Issues???

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Tom is Spudvill

04-13-2007 05:58:49




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I need help trouble-shooting my TO-30. It stalls after 30 seconds or less after starting fine. I pulled the fuel line, good fuel. I checked the cap to make sure it was venting. It doesn't run long enoegh to vaporlock. If I keep it choked, it will run, but obviously not good. My problem appears to be in the carb. What do I look at when I pull it off, or do I necessarily need to remove it? It is a MS original?

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Tom in Spudville

04-13-2007 20:58:54




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 Re: Carburetor Issues??? in reply to Tom is Spudville, 04-13-2007 05:58:49  
Hey guys, I did the adjustments on the carb Jerry suggested and it continued to run. It is not running well though. I changed the plugs, now I will change the cap and wires, then do a minor kit on the carb. Anyway, I appreciate the excellent suggestions, they will go in my trouble-shooting file for future reference. Thanks, Tom



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Jerry/MT

04-14-2007 20:04:38




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 Re: Carburetor Issues??? in reply to Tom in Spudville, 04-13-2007 20:58:54  
Tom, check the spark as I suggested before you start changing components. You'll get to the root cause of the problem if you take a systematic approach to troubleshooting.



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Jerry/MT

04-13-2007 13:37:19




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 Re: Carburetor Issues??? in reply to Tom is Spudville, 04-13-2007 05:58:49  
The ability to run when choked maybe indicative of two potential problems: weak spark,an improperly adjusted or dirty carburetor, or an induction system air leak that leans the mixture.
While fuel delivery could be an issue, it usually does not respond to choking. Nonetheless it's easy to check as John(UK) pointed out.

Check the spark first by removing the center lead from the distributor cap, holding it near a good ground, turning on the ignition switch and trying a start. You should see a FAT, BLUISH-WHITE SPARK FROM THE HIGH TENSION LEAD. If you don't the problem is most likely in the primary ignition circuit(dirty or corroded points , improper point gap, bad primary connections, worn key switch, etc.) A weak spark will more easily ignite a richer mixture.
If you have the requiste FAT, BLUISH-WHITE SPARK, then the problem most likely is caused by an overly lean mixture that can be caused by improper carb adjustment, dirty carb or leaky induction system. Adust the idle mixture screw by turning it in gently til it stops and turning it out about 3/4 turns. Adjust the power jet(big screw) again turning it in gently and then out 1-1/4 turns. Now try a start and see how that works.

If you still have problems, get some starting fluid and get the engine started and running. You may have to have someone help you keep it running while you CAREFULLY spray the starting fluid around the throttle shaft on the outside of the carb, the joint between the carb and the intake manifold and the manifold to cylinder head joint. A leak will suck the starting fluid in and a momentary speed increase will result. The point where that happens is where the leak is at. If all these tests don't point to the problem area, you'll have to remove the carb , soak it inreal carb cleanerfor a day or two, blow out all the passages with compressed air and replace the gaskets.
Do all these checks syematically, check to see if each potential fix corrected the problem before moving to the the next step. Write the results down for future reference. Doing it systematically helps you learn and gets to the root cause of the problem.

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John (UK)

04-13-2007 07:12:38




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 Re: Carburetor Issues??? in reply to Tom is Spudville, 04-13-2007 05:58:49  
To check the flow into the carb, remove the drain plug from the carb. bowl and let the fuel run into a jug or similar, see how long it keeps running, if it stops there is a restriction somewhere and you need to repeat this further back towards the tank so you can find the blockage. If it doesn't stop flowing then at least you know that it is getting fuel ok. If you need the info on the carburettor on what to do to strip it, email me at:-
fergusontractors(at)tiscali.co.uk
just tell me what you need and I will send it.

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RustyFarmall

04-13-2007 06:51:12




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 Re: Carburetor Issues??? in reply to Tom is Spudville, 04-13-2007 05:58:49  
Remove the fuel line fitting from the carb. If it is original, there will be a fine mesh, cylinder shaped screen attached to the fitting. That screen may be all crudded up. You can clean it with spray carb cleaner. If that is not the case, you will have to remove the carb from the tractor and take it apart. There is possibly a bit of crud partially blocking the needle valve, or there might be an issue with the float. Carb parts are readily available.

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Bob (Aust)

04-13-2007 20:36:17




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 Re: Carburetor Issues??? in reply to RustyFarmall, 04-13-2007 06:51:12  
Had the "30 seconds running then stop" problem with my TEA20 some years ago. That one turned out to be a sticking float valve, which I only found through trial and error.



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