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mark from the f

03-12-2007 18:30:31




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This winter while plowing the snow, the ol' girl would run great for 30 minutes and start cutting out. I opened the reserve, nothing. Opend the drain on carb--only a trinkle.
Let her set for a while and good for 5 minutes.
LUCKILY, instead of yanking the carb and checking for sticky float..... ....I was nearly empty and pulled sediment bulb WHOLLY CRAP the reserve was packed solid and the main was half. I was low enough on gas that I was needing the reserve.
carefully cleaned with drill bit (by hand) and blew everything out. I did have the beginning of a crack about 3/4 inch on the top of the long tube--I emery clothed it a bit and heated a piece of copper tubing over it. After she cooled, pulled together very nice. Anyhow, I thought my tank was clean..WOW. I had to completely re-adjust my carb settings as I kept "tinkering" with them to keep her running. Now I know she was starvin' for gas.

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MWFerg

03-13-2007 14:54:30




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 Re: Can't believe the dirt in reply to mark from the fort, 03-12-2007 18:30:31  
I used the stuff that coats the inside of the tank. It is an epoxy that runs about like honey. The instructions stated that you should fill the tank with wood screws and shake it up to loosen the rust. (put in 100 drywall screws-got 99 out) Then use this product to coat the tank. That was 3 years ago, and the other day I ran out of gas on the back 30. The reserve position worked properly and I made it back to the fuel shed.

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Griz

03-13-2007 04:30:32




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 Re: Can't believe the dirt in reply to mark from the fort, 03-12-2007 18:30:31  
My tank has a lot of crap in it to. It was always plugging up. With the baffles, in it it's next to impossible to clean. My fix was to pitch the old valve, that leaked anyway. I bought a barbed fitting and soldered a piece of copper tubing into it. The tubing extends about 2 inches into the tank. I pinched off the top and drilled a lot of holes that were smaller than the hose. I put in an inline filter and a shut off and haven't had any problems since.

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Jerry/MT

03-12-2007 18:39:35




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 Re: Can't believe the dirt in reply to mark from the fort, 03-12-2007 18:30:31  
Mark, a lot of this old iron sat parked in the back 40 in a blackberry bramble for many years or in an old barn. All manner of crap and corruption formed in the fuel tank in those years of non use. Some guys find the fuel bowls of the carburetor so full of fine sediments that the float won't drop. My TO-30's fuel tank has a broken baffle laying in the bottom that keeps things stirred up and I still have fine sediments in my sediment bowl.I've placed a lawn mower fuel filter in the fuel line to the cab to protect it from this crud. It's a never ending problem on these old machine and you just have to find a way to clean the tank and deal with the stuff that you can't get out.

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mark from the fort

03-12-2007 18:58:55




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 Re: Can't believe the dirt in reply to Jerry/MT, 03-12-2007 18:39:35  
I know these are gravity feed systems, but with the combustion process--isn't there some "draw" in those tubes?...I was contemplating some sort of mesh or screen "bulb" that could be soldered to the new brass pipe. The biggest obsticle would be making it small enough to go through the mounting hole. Those little "secret" screens that are in the inlet of the carb are just what I'm thinking of. Let me ask you (or anyone) this, has anyone ever put a strong magnet in the bottom of there gas tanks? Most of my stuff was small rust particles. This is my fathers original 1955 and I do not want to add an inline fuel filter. All my other 35 do have them.and I do think they have helped with carb issues.
Thanks for the reply, I've enjoyed many of yours. Mark

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Jerry/MT

03-12-2007 20:13:17




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 Re: Can't believe the dirt in reply to mark from the fort, 03-12-2007 18:58:55  
Some of the sediment bowl/tank valves come with a screen. But they are just that, a screen. They get the big stuff. If your tank has a broken baffle,like mine, it'll take out the screen in no time. If the debri is ferrous, a magnet will get some of it but eventually you have to clean it off. And if the magnet falls off, now you have a slug of crud let loose.
If you don't want to use a filter, and you have a chronic tank rust problem, I'd look at the stuff that's available to coat the rust in the tank and convert it to iron phosphate.

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Bob (Aust)

03-14-2007 01:53:25




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 Re: Can't believe the dirt in reply to Jerry/MT, 03-12-2007 20:13:17  
I had the same problem for years in my TEA20. Rumbled the tank with screws and stones a few times but it all comes back again in time.

Bought and installed a new tank, only cost around Aus$230 (US$160??). Being gravity fed, don't like the idea of an in line filter. I also replaced the steel fuel line with an identical copper line.



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