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Tom H.

10-26-2005 03:26:26




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I just put an 8 volt battery in my TO 30 to give it more power during the starting. Is there a way to tweak the voltage regulator up to around 8.5 volts to maintain peak charge in this battery?

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John T

10-26-2005 13:46:42




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 Re: 8 volt battery in reply to Tom H., 10-26-2005 03:26:26  
Ton, YES its possible if one has the specs and data etc but its NOT a job I get into over the net. Basically a Generator dont know what voltage its supposed to generate, it increases as its turned faster and/or theres more current passed through its field windings which increases the magnetic field strength in which the armature is rotating. I have used 6 volt generators to charge 12 volt batterys simply by changing the Voltage Regulator to a 12 volt.

An 8 volt battery just sitting fully charged ought to read 8.4 volts, so the gen has to put out 8.6 volts or so and over to charge the battery.

If theres an old fashioned mom n pop type of a Generator n Starter repair shop nearby they can adjust the VR for you, and I have seen operators manuals with VR adjusitgn procedures, but again, I have no data or specs here. Adjusting them involves setting air gaps and/or spring tensions to cause the relays to latch in easier or harder but it takes some equipment and know how and a manual to figure it out usually.

Im not a fan of the 8 volt system, if I was gonna fiddle with it I would go ahead and convert it to 12 so it would be more standard. If you use like 00 Gauge battery n starter n ground cables, have a good ground and all good connections, and have a heavy duty high CCA rated battery, a 6 volt system ought to start okay.

Sorry no help, best wishes n good luck

John T, retired electrical engineer in Indiana

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gshadel

10-26-2005 13:19:43




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 Re: 8 volt battery in reply to Tom H., 10-26-2005 03:26:26  
You might be able to tweek the regulator to get more volts, but your running into the top of the working range for your 6V generator. Depending on the generator, chances are it will only crank out ~7.5V max... providing it is in good shape. You can test your generator output by connecting a lead to the grounding strap behind the dash and connecting the other end to the "F" field terminal on the generator. That will force your generator to full output. Rev-up your engine to ~1/2 throttle and measure the volts and amps output with a multimeter, then you will know how many volts you are going to be able to pull. Then you can adjust your regulator to give you that output.
George

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George in MI

10-26-2005 10:32:46




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 adjusting the regulator in reply to Tom H., 10-26-2005 03:26:26  
We have had long discussions on this, and in summary it is very hard to set them right without the right meters etc.

These regulators have two coils, the larger winding is the "cutout", the smaller essentially shorts out the field circuit when the points touch allowing a charge.

I found with mine that if I adjusted this smaller coil such that the points were slightly stronger pulled together , I got much better charging.
I don't now if this affects the charging voltage.

I also don't know what the effect is of tightenign or loosening the pressure on the cutout points....does anyone know the answer to this??

A caution, it is easy to get these out of adjustment in a way that you won't be able to reverse, and also if they overcharge you can destroy your battery. I recommend at least installing an ammeter so you can see what is going on all the time.

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gerard

10-26-2005 08:55:46




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 Re: 8 volt battery in reply to Tom H., 10-26-2005 03:26:26  
You"ll need about 9.5 volts to do that. No reason why volt reg shouldn"t be able to be tweked up that amount.



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