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lonestarjeff

10-24-2005 16:20:44

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Haven't tested it w/ a load yet, just happy the geometry works!

Jeff

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Boss Hog

10-26-2005 05:13:34

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I need some parts for one of these in reply to lonestarjeff, 10-24-2005 16:20:44

The Historical Society I belong to has a Ferguson side mount baler, hay chopper, and silage chopper. But we don"t have all the parts for the rear hitch.

We have the hook that goes underneath the tractor, but not the rest of it. I"ve been asking around for years, but haven"t had any luck.

If anyone has a source for these things I"d sure like to hear about it.

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John (UK)

10-27-2005 05:37:49

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Re: I need some parts for one of these in reply to Boss Hog, 10-26-2005 05:13:34

You may be better to try in the UK and Europe as there are a lot of these about and you should be able to get the parts you need quite easily.

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Boss Hog

10-28-2005 05:14:52

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Re: I need some parts for one of these in reply to John (UK), 10-27-2005 05:37:49

Thanks John -

Someone already emailed me and suggested I talk to someone at www.holland-brand.co.uk about it.

Getting it back across the pond may be a problem. I have no idea how much that will cost.

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John (UK)

10-28-2005 06:06:50

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Re: I need some parts for one of these in reply to Boss Hog, 10-28-2005 05:14:52

Holland-Brand don't send parts overseas anymore, you would have to try someone else. You could try these people, they do export:-
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they are in Ireland. Carriage is always a problem, I priced a book in the US, it was $16 with carr it came to $89.lol
What you need to ask for is a Pick-up hitch less the hook assy. for a TEA, don't mention TO series tractors or it will cause confusion.

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Melville Will

10-24-2005 16:33:40

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Ferguson autohotch in reply to lonestarjeff, 10-24-2005 16:20:44

Okay, I give up. What"s it for? Looks great though!

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lonestarjeff

10-24-2005 17:05:55

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Re: Ferguson autohitch, explained in reply to Melville Will, 10-24-2005 16:33:40

I expected that response on the Ford N board!

But seriously, I'm not sure Harry had any made over here, I've only seen pictures in books & those sent to me by JohnUK & others on this board.

It has 2 purposes I know of, also called the "pick-up hitch" it allows the driver to drop the hook & back under the Ferguson 2-wheel trailer's pintle hitch & pick it up without getting off the tractor. The 2-wheel design of the trailer puts half the load on the tractor's rear wheels. The location of the hook(under the diffy)prevents the dreaded flip-over tendency of these little tractors.

The 2nd use of the hitch assembly is to pick-up weights on the T-bar without getting off the tractor. Used as counterweights on tractors w/ front loader. The ideal setup was to have a tractor w/ a FEL & a 2-wheel tipping trailer or manure spreader. You picked up the weights, use the FEL to load the trailer, drop the weights, back up to the trailer, pick it up & off you go. The tractor hydraulics power the trailer's hydraulic cylinder to dump the load.

You can remove all the linkage & leave the hook bolted up under the diffy, here's a pic:

Jeff

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John (UK)

10-27-2005 05:40:22

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Re: Ferguson auto-hitch, explained in reply to lonestarjeff, 10-24-2005 17:05:55

There is also a conversion kit that allows you to have the Pick-up hitch fitted and be able to easily change over to the swinging drawbar too

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lonestarjeff

10-27-2005 09:35:18

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Re: Ferguson auto-hitch, explained in reply to John (UK), 10-27-2005 05:40:22

Is that convesion kit what I saw in one of the pics you sent me yesterday? It was a bracket mounted to the tractor belly & the hook assembly was bolted under that.

Jeff

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John (UK)

10-27-2005 12:01:45

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Re: Ferguson auto-hitch, explained in reply to lonestarjeff, 10-27-2005 09:35:18

Yes it sounds like it. Actually it is a flat plate, with a long pin through the front and the rear, the hook is fitted in a "U" shaped channel, open end down, with the hook inside, the top has two tubes welded to it to attach to the pins on the plate. The swinging drawbar is attached the same way, using the long pins.

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Melville Will

10-25-2005 07:55:23

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Re: Ferguson autohitch, explained in reply to lonestarjeff, 10-24-2005 17:05:55

Impressive! Thanks for the response. You know, you could reverse that hook and land it on an aircraft carrier! I especially like that cupholder too!

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lonestarjeff

10-25-2005 09:05:51

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Re: Ferguson autohitch, explained in reply to Melville Will, 10-25-2005 07:55:23

You know, I've heard of using a smog pump from an old Chevy big block engine to supercharge the N's flat-4 engine. If I ever do that it might be a good time to reverse that hook(grin).

Every good tractor needs a place to secure a beverage.

Jeff

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lonestarjeff

10-24-2005 16:32:26

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Ah...that's HITCH(pic#3) in reply to lonestarjeff, 10-24-2005 16:20:44

This one shows the locking pin in the "T" to take the load off the hydraulics. Not as smart as Ferguson's spring-loaded lock, but it should work.

Jeff

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John (UK)

10-27-2005 05:44:29

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Re: Ah...that's HITCH(pic#3) in reply to lonestarjeff, 10-24-2005 16:32:26

The later type pick-up hitch was very similar to this with that type of lock, the only difference was that it was still spring loaded and fixed into the Tee, but the pin did go through the sliding part just like this one, it was much stronger than the earlier type and there was no chance of it jumping off and letting the trailer fall.

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gshadel

10-25-2005 09:14:54

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Re: Ah...that's HITCH(pic#3) in reply to lonestarjeff, 10-24-2005 16:32:26

Looks great Jeff! I think your hitch will look perfect painted Fergy grey... not that Ford red color.... right?
Great pic's!

George

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lonestarjeff

10-24-2005 16:25:24

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Re: Ferguson autohotch/my version(another pic) in reply to lonestarjeff, 10-24-2005 16:20:44

Don't know how to post multiple pics at once.

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Andi

11-08-2005 14:34:20

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Re: Ferguson autohotch/my version(another pic) in reply to lonestarjeff, 10-24-2005 16:25:24

Hello,

is it possible to have an overrunning brake with a tipping trailer? The MF Tipping Trailer 717 has a parking brake, but in Germany we need an overrunning brake.

Andi from Germany

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lonestarjeff

11-08-2005 14:40:31

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Re: Ferguson autohotch/my version(another pic) in reply to Andi, 11-08-2005 14:34:20

JohnUK will jump in if I'm wrong here, but I remember the Ferguson 3-ton tipping trailer had an over-running brake designed in. There was a lever coming up behind the driver off the trailer tongue. The lever operated hydraulic drum brakes.

Jeff

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