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Fresh Battery for the Fergie

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Rod in Smiths F

04-24-2005 14:44:31




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I dropped a new battery borrowed from my boat into the Fergie (TEA20) and, inspired, it immediately chortled to life.

Seems that all I have to do now is replace all of the batteries which have come down with a bad case of sulfation (sp?) over the winter. I can probably get by with replacing the ones on the tractor, golf cart, generator and lawn mower, as well as the two already done on the boats.

Is this why they say April is the cruelest month?

Way back when I got nine years out of a six volt starting battery on my boat. The latest twelve was brand new last June, though the guy cheerfully replaced it with another from the same truckload.
What has changed?

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John(UK)

04-25-2005 10:28:08




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 Re: Fresh Battery for the Fergie in reply to Rod in Smiths Falls, ON, , 04-24-2005 14:44:31  
So Rod, what you think of your Fergie Now then????? Is there a bad case of the apologies coming on? lol



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Rod in Smiths Falls, ON,

04-25-2005 15:55:25




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 Re: Fresh Battery for the Fergie in reply to John(UK), 04-25-2005 10:28:08  
Well, I used it with a 100' cable to rescue my utility trailer from the mud in the back laneway. Once it was out of the way, the MF 35 reared up on its hind wheels and dragged the loader clear of the hole where it has been waist-deep for the last week.

So it was useful in getting the other one unstuck.

After that much work with the Fergie, as usual, I had to do two things: first, put out the fire on the sole of my right boot, and next, add gas. It certainly steers a lot more easily since I got the loader off it and onto the 35, though, and its brakes are very good.

But if I leave that new battery connected it will be drained by the next day, and I have to turn the gas off every time I leave it, lest it all run out. The Fergie's still inconvenient, just not impossible now.

What would I have to do to prevent the gas leak without shutting it off at the tank?

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John(UK)

04-26-2005 04:46:01




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 Re: Fresh Battery for the Fergie in reply to Rod in Smiths Falls, ON, , 04-25-2005 15:55:25  
It is always advisable to turn the gas off anyway just to make sure, but check the needle valve above the float in the carb, see if that has dirt in it or it could be worn and sticking slightly, you can get a new one, check the float too in case it is damaged, either leaking so it doesn't float or deformed due to water in carb freezing and compressing it out of shape. The battery going flat could be the control box points sticking and causing the problem. It may be possible to open it and clean the points in there and see if that cures it,or maybe the wiring is damaged somewhere and shorting, but the battery should remain charged. I can let you have information on what to do at the control box if you need it. if it is using a lot of gas like you say it may be due to the fuel level being too high in the carb due to the leak, if you manage to repair that and then reset the carb you should find it a lot more economical.
If your 35 reared up like you say, you had it hitched too high to the trailer and it is very dangerous, did you fasten the trailer to the top link attachment point or something high up?

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Rod in Smiths Falls, ON,

04-26-2005 15:39:20




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 Battery for the Fergie/evil eye from a coyote in reply to John(UK), 04-26-2005 04:46:01  
MF rearing up? I "reared" it with the downforce on the loader, then put it in high range, reverse, and backed outa there. That loader keeps wanting to take over the agenda. It gets me stuck -- it gets me unstuck.

I'm not quite sure I know what you mean by a control box. Maybe that's why the battery goes dead...

So if the carburetor is adjusted properly it should not leak. I thought everyone just gave up on these things and shut the fuel off as a matter of course.

Oh yeah, and now the MF 35 has taken to dripping diesel around the filter. I think it has learned a bad habit from the other one. The guy who installed my loader changed the filters. Any chance it has worked loose? I'd rather not have to shut this one off at the tank: it takes an eternity to screw the stopcock in.

And now a female coyote is annoyed at me for parking the MF in the back barn, under which she has her den. She comes out, stands on the rail fence and glares at me until I leave with the tractor.

I may be able to get some good pictures of coyote pups this summer.

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John(UK)

04-27-2005 10:32:46




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 Re: Battery for the Fergie/evil eye from a coyote in reply to Rod in Smiths Falls, ON, , 04-26-2005 15:39:20  
Control box is the regulator that controls the charging rate, it is usually mounted under the battery above the clutch housing.
The Diesel leak on the filter is probably the large sealing ring that the filter sits on, it is most likely too big with being soaked in diesel all the time , it needs changing and it should have been replaced when the filter was changed, they usually supply them in the box with the filters for this purpose,(well they do here) It needs changing or you will get air in the system and it will need bleeding.

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nonac99

04-24-2005 20:45:07




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 Re: Fresh Battery for the Fergie in reply to Rod in Smiths Falls, ON, , 04-24-2005 14:44:31  
Not much has change with lead acid batteries in many years. IMHO the secret to long battery life is to charge the battery every month of so. Bring the battery to a boil (lots of bubbles in the water in the cells. The minimum time for charge is 1 hour and max around 2 hours. I like to see the voltage on a 12 volt battery go as high as 16 volts during this process. This is a cheap and dirty way to convert the lead sulphate back into acid and lead. I like to check the cells with a hydrometer and use the weekest cell to gauge charge time.
For long term storage say several months, I like to use a charger that "floats" the battery. All this means is that it is set to a voltage (usually around 14.5 volts for 12 volt batteries) that results in very little or no charge going into the battery. It does prevent the battery from discharging though and can be left on the battery full time without over charging it. Really cool stuff!

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