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T B

02-16-2005 16:36:22




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Ok guys, I'm missing something here. I'm putting the axles back in my TO20. When taken apart it had 3 metal shims on each axle. I've been reading previous posts and none seem to fit whats happening here.
I put them all in and the other hub turns the opposite direction when I turn the one on my side. I added a metal shim and same result. I took 3 out on one side, same result.
I have taken out all shims to try and get the other axle to turn the same direction. When tightened up, it turned very hard but still in the opposite direction. Added one and the opposite hub still turns the opposite direction of the side Im on. Where am I going wrong. The shims apprear to be about .015.
Thanks Tom

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phil(va)

02-18-2005 06:37:27




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 Re: Axle shims in reply to T B, 02-16-2005 16:36:22  
As others said, turning opposite way is correct! Only would turn same way if you did not have enough shims and axles were too tight.



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John (UK)

02-17-2005 12:15:49




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 Re: Axle shims in reply to T B, 02-16-2005 16:36:22  
Add the shims till the wheels JUST turn in opposite directions with ALL the studs tight and then add more shims to a thickness of .010" to give correct clearance. When you turn the wheels it doesn't matter if the tractor is in gear or not.` Don't assume that because you took 3 shims out that it will only need the same putting back, it may need less because of wear or it could need more.



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Vince ( France )

02-17-2005 03:52:15




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 Re: Axle shims in reply to T B, 02-16-2005 16:36:22  
the other hub turns the opposite direction because of the differential: it"s absolutely normal !!
the metal shims are here to ajust the pressure on the crown of this differential. it does"nt turn very hard.
Normally you have to fixe these shims only on one side ( I think the left side where the differential is )



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Jim in OH

02-16-2005 20:28:55




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 Re: Axle shims in reply to T B, 02-16-2005 16:36:22  
Hi Tom.. Is your tractor in neutral and the PTO disengaged? It should be. Your symptoms suggest that it is in gear or that there is resistance in the transmission... The simple tests that are used are testing friction between the two sides. When you have the two axels pushed together too tightly, turning one should cause the other to turn in the same direction by the friction between them. This won't happen if the tractor is in gear; If it is in gear, it will just get harder and harder to turn, but they will always turn opposite. The optimum is of course at the point where the friction is essentially eliminated but the axels are as close together as possible... Jim

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TerryMi

02-16-2005 17:40:39




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 Re: Axle shims in reply to T B, 02-16-2005 16:36:22  
When the shims are in and properly adjusted, yes the other wheel should turn the opposite.



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Chris (UK)

02-17-2005 23:56:29




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 Re: Axle shims in reply to TerryMi, 02-16-2005 17:40:39  
Try jacking up your car/van/truck whatever, so both driven wheels are off the ground. Now try turning one and see what happens to the other one. It will turn in the opposite direction! Perfectly normal! Nothing wrong with the axle on the tractor. Hope this helps.



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