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FERGUSON T0-30 HYDRAULIC

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Teddy (punchie)

12-13-2004 06:14:34




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Hi Have a friend that needs his hydraulics fixed on his T0-30.

I'm use to AC and Farmall, so where should I start.

Oil type for winter?
Is there a releave(sp) valve?
Linkage that maybe Off, or need ajusted?
Any and all Ideas would be helpful. Plan on looking at soon.

What would be the lifting pressure of this tractor, what would be the wieght it would lift, maybe he tried too lift something too heavy.

Thanks !! And Have A Good One !!

Teddy

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John (UK)

12-14-2004 11:33:09




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 Re: FERGUSON T0-30 HYDRAULIC in reply to Teddy (punchie), 12-13-2004 06:14:34  
I have a troubleshooting guide for this hydraulic system, if you want a copy, email me at fergusontractors at hotmail dot com it covers all the questions you have asked.



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gshadel

12-13-2004 13:16:15




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 Re: FERGUSON T0-30 HYDRAULIC in reply to Teddy (punchie), 12-13-2004 06:14:34  
Teddy,
Oil- GL-1 90 wt. year round
relief valve - yup, there is one at the bottom of the sump, if it is stuck wide open the lift won't hold any weight.
Linkage off - yup, there is a fork shaped deal down in the sump too. It relays the control lever movement to the control valve for the pump. If it has popped-off, the lift won't work. Can't see it for the oil, but you can stick your hand down in there and feel if it is connected to the control valve.

Best advise is to get yourself a manual like James says. A good way to start trouble shooting is to pull the side inspection plate for the hydraulic lift, that's the plate that has the dip stick in it. Run the tractor, and the PTO, look in there and see what is going on. If you have oil spraying down from the top, your problem is with the pump seals/gasket. If the oil is swirling around in the sump - relief valve stuck open, if you don't see much oil movement - stop the engine and drain the oil, then check the forked control lever and make sure the sump is not clogged-up with a bunch of sediment.
hydraulic pressure - not sure on this, I think it is about 2,000 psi @ about 4 GPM.
lifting weight - not sure on this either, I think it should be able to pick-up about 800 pounds if everything is working in good order. Should have no problem picking-up a 2 bottom plow, a 5' hog, or a 5' disc. It will have trouble if trying to pick-up round bails unless the round bail is small. Most round bails are ~1000 #'s or so.

Good Luck!

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Teddy

12-13-2004 14:02:18




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 Re: FERGUSON T0-30 HYDRAULIC in reply to gshadel, 12-13-2004 13:16:15  
gshadel ; Thanks for your help, searched for over an hour on this topic and didn't end up with this much information as you give, this newer format is not any better.

Have a Good One !!

Teddy



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kevin froggatte

04-21-2005 18:43:13




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 Re: FERGUSON T0-30 HYDRAULIC in reply to Teddy , 12-13-2004 14:02:18  
I am in need of a control valve and oscillator drive for my to30. It seems to be strange the book says its of the scotch yoke piston type. I have looked all over and frankly am lost for answers. If you have any help i will forever be indebt to you ..... thanks kevin



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James, UK

12-13-2004 11:33:21




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 Re: FERGUSON T0-30 HYDRAULIC in reply to Teddy (punchie), 12-13-2004 06:14:34  
Teddy, at the risk of appearing impolite, you will find the answers to these relatively frequent questions in the archives. Oil type, quality, quantity, and hydraulics 'problems' are covered in depth.

Fixing the hydraulics should be a walk in the park - a GOOD (Ferguson reprint) manual will help.

HTH



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Teddy

12-13-2004 14:02:09




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 Re: FERGUSON T0-30 HYDRAULIC in reply to James, UK, 12-13-2004 11:33:21  
James

I did search for about and hour, and well not that it was easyer to do before, but it is not any better now. Only printed one topic page that was of any use. So get use to people asking the same question over and over again, just let the rest of the forums.

I'm thinking he did all of the simple things but just asking for opinions. Its always been my luck to end up with a basket case when it is to be an easy fix.

Teddy

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steveormary

12-13-2004 15:07:36




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 Re: FERGUSON T0-30 HYDRAULIC in reply to Teddy , 12-13-2004 14:02:09  
Teddy

They will lift more then the front end can hold down.

steveormary



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Ray,IN

12-13-2004 20:16:30




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 Re: FERGUSON T0-30 HYDRAULIC in reply to steveormary, 12-13-2004 15:07:36  
It is acceptable to use 40wt mineral oil(GL1) when the temperature is consistently below freezing, th allow the hyds to work quicker. You should use 80/90wt straight mineral oil above freezing to prevent damage to the pump.

Don't dissemble anything until you have purchased(and read through first) a reprint of the original Harry Ferguson shop manual. If you break the fork you are in trouble. This part is not available new, and good ones from salvage yards are scarce because they rust away; from operating partially above the oil level. You can perform a simple diagnosis yourself, as related to me by a friend who was a Harry Ferguson mechanic when Dad bought our 1953 TO30. Remove the RH inspection plate(with dipstick in it), start tractor with PTO engaged. Using a flashlight, a mechanic's inspection mirror, look around inside the hyds ares. If you see oil spraying from the front of the area, you likely have a leaking oil transfer tube that plumbs the pressurized oil up to the top cover. If oil is dripping or streaming down from under the seat area, the master control cylinder is leaking. If the oil in the reservoir is swirling the oil pressure leak is connected to the pump area. DO NOT put your hands into the hyd area with the tractor running if you wish to keep them.

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