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1952 TEA-2085 Pictures of my new plow

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Barry from Stir

12-02-2004 07:47:58

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Morning Everyone. I posted 5 pictures on the photo gallery under ( tractor photos ) of my new, home made plow and the assembly of it. I used a 1,500 lb electric winch to raise and lower it. The plow swings to the right and left. A buddy of mine who can fabricate ANYTHING, was the mastermind behind this little venture. He had his detractors that said it might not work. Thats all my buddy needed to hear. Have a look and lets hear your comments. The plate on the front where the winch is mounted will come off. We had to figure something out so we could get the hood open to gas her up.The winch will be wired tonight with a plug and socket so it can be easily removed. You pull 2 pins and the plow slips right off. It couldnt get any more easier. I want to thank my buddy Doug Crossen for his superb fabricating skills.We have been friends for over 25 years. He can build anything. Looking forward to your comments,,,,, ,,,,, ,,,,, ,Barry

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John of Perth

12-07-2004 17:21:48

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Re: 1952 TEA-2085 Pictures of my new plow in reply to Barry from Stirling, 12-02-2004 07:47:58

Hi Barry. Looks great. Well done!!May I make a little sugestion ?A lot of people on here are saying you might need something running to the back axle .I think they might be right. A few years ago I built a blade for my two wheel drive four wheeler just like the one you made for your tractor without supports to the back axle.The thing was useless.When you hit anything it almost broke your neck plus it was hard on the machine.I was ready to scrap the blade when my buddy told me how to fix it.We made a support arm to the rear end.A big improvement.The thing would push snow like mad(It was only two wheel drive too ) Just my 2 cents worth. Good Luck.

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Norm in Ont.

12-06-2004 20:11:31

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Re: 1952 TEA-2085 Pictures of my new plow in reply to Barry from Stirling, 12-02-2004 07:47:58

Hi Barry, Nice unit, congrats. I may have a suggestion if you may in order to gaz up easily.
From the picture it seems that the winch is attached to the top plate where it can be removed by pulling it upwards via the 2 vertical sleeves on each side. Am I correct? If so you could contemplate leaving one sleeve as a hinge and remove the other one and weld in its place a small vertical plate drilled to allow a pin to lock it. So when you want to gaz you can remove small pin and swing the top plate to one side allowing to open the hood and or hand crank if need be.

Also even though your front blade is well rigged with springs I'd still would try using heavy duty pipes (2" dia. minimum) to the rear axle as all your friends here suggests. Your own loader was constructed that way for a reason. The blade will let up on impact but your front axle will feel it too.

On another thought if the blade is not heavy enough to cut the packed snow, you could use a steel cable with a few pulleys to the back hydraulics running under the tractor where when lifting the drawbar it would pull front blade downwards.

These are just thoughts and good luck to you.

Take Care

Norm

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Dell (WA)

12-03-2004 17:28:31

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Re: 1952 TEA-2085 Pictures of my new plow in reply to Barry from Stirling, 12-02-2004 07:47:58

Barry..... ....nicely fabricated front snowplow brackets. Still would like to see some back to the rear axle braces. We all know that the frontaxle kingpin is not the stouttest in the world. Plowing yer gonnna run into things that you wouldn't pushing a honeywagon around.

Fellow that posts by "Ultradog" did essentually the same thing for his 8N ...except... he used a closed circuit hydraulic slave cylinder scheme instead of electric motor lift. He took 2 2-way 2x24 hydraulic cylinders and mounted one between his 11-hole drawbar and the upper 3-point buttbuckett hitch. Everytime he raised his Hy-Troll hip-lever it squeezed the rear hydraulic cylinder which then sucked the front cylinder closed (thats the reason for the 2-way cylinders) and raised the front plow. By putting extra weight on the 11-hole draw bar you can gitts-some "down-pressure" on your front plowblade. Too much downpressure will lift your frontwheels (grin) ..... .....just some thoughts..... ..Dell (WA)

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James, UK

12-03-2004 00:44:21

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Re: 1952 TEA-2085 Pictures of my new plow in reply to Barry from Stirling, 12-02-2004 07:47:58

Morning all,

I also looked at the front axle, and yes, you would think that having a blade attached like that would be a recipe for trouble.

However, I am reasonably sure that there was an original HF fitting of similar design that also attached to the front axle in the same way as it is the only way to allow the blade to follow the same ground contours as the front axle.

My thinking is that if HF did the same, and he was known to be a stickler for design, then it can't be that far wrong.

Can anyone remember what the device was that I am talking about? Or does anyone have a pic they could post to further the topic/design?

Just my thoughts.

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Barry from Stirling

12-03-2004 04:56:49

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Re: 1952 TEA-2085 Pictures of my new plow in reply to James, UK, 12-03-2004 00:44:21

Morning Guys
I hear you loud and clear. The brackets that are bolted onto the front axle of the tractor are off the original Ferguson Manure Loader that was on the Tractor when I bought her. This loader stuck way out in front of the tractor. A lot farther than this blade does. This plow was designed, as most plows are to fold forward when you hit something and then spring back into place. The area Im plowing is my drive way, Its strate and about 250 ft long. I dont anticipate any problems what so ever. To tell you the truth , when the old manure loader was on it was far more worse than the way this plow acts . But thanks for the words of advise just the same. We finished the cosmetic touches last night. Hid the wires inside that plastic wire tubing. Installed a very good plug and socket connector, to easily remove the winch when you need to. All in all Im very happy with the way it turned out. ,,,,,Barry

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marlowe

12-02-2004 16:54:59

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Re: 1952 TEA-2085 Pictures of my new plow in reply to Barry from Stirling, 12-02-2004 07:47:58

do not hit any thing solid or you will bust the front pivot point on the front axle and bend the front axle arms that come back to the middle of the tractor seen this 3 or 4 times over the years. just becafull and you will be ok

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Barry from Stirling

12-03-2004 07:32:47

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Re: 1952 TEA-2085 Pictures of my new plow in reply to marlowe, 12-02-2004 16:54:59

Morning Again Everyone
I forgot the mention, The blade on the plow will pivet from side to side. I wont be plowing strait on all the time, mostly when all the snow is removed and I want to basicaly clean up the little piles of snow left behind, you know the rows . Also there are a number of shear pins on the plow to prevent any major crack ups. If I was plowing a large area, or plowing very fast I could understand all the concerns. In my opinion there was more chance to damage the front axle when the Ferguson Manure Loader was used. When that was on my tractor the lifting of it was awful, made the front end of the tractor act very werid. Time will tell how she works, Thanks again for all the comments

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Al in BC

12-02-2004 20:25:07

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Re: 1952 TEA-2085 Pictures of my new plow in reply to marlowe, 12-02-2004 16:54:59

Hi! Barry Looks good but I will have to reinerate with Marlowe, that you might have a swivel pin problem if you hit something while plowing. One never knows. I would suggest that maybe two struts be taken from the front frame down low and secured to the rear axle so as to chase the impact to the rear axle rather than the front. Make sure that the ends are properly pinned and bushed.

My 2 cents worth from out West.

Take care.

Al in BC

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sawtooth

12-02-2004 19:06:44

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Re: 1952 TEA-2085 Pictures of my new plow in reply to marlowe, 12-02-2004 16:54:59

Got to agree with your warning- looks like trouble. Years ago we had a good size tromp shed for our dairy cows. By spring the straw and manure would be several feet deep. We loaded it out with a Fergy 30. There was a mean offset in the cement and if you hit it hard with the loader it would almost knock you off the seat. But it never broke anything. Sure would have if it was only pushing on the front axle! BTW, dad still has that Fergy and it's still going strong-with the Freeman loader.

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Leroy

12-02-2004 16:46:43

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Re: 1952 TEA-2085 Pictures of my new plow in reply to Barry from Stirling, 12-02-2004 07:47:58

If it is as it looks in the pictures that the plow pushes off the front axle I hope you have better luck than I think you will because if you try pushing a load with that it will put a twist on the front axle and will break out the piviot on the axle and let the hole front end down and completly ruin the tractor. put some strong conections on back to the rear axle to take the push load, all factory blades do this to have a solid place to push against, front mount truck blades mount against the frame and you do not have a frame there to take the load, would hate to have you lose a nice looking tractor by tearing out the front axle and taking the whole front end off the engine and the radiator out

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James, UK

12-02-2004 10:35:39

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Re: 1952 TEA-2085 Pictures of my new plow in reply to Barry from Stirling, 12-02-2004 07:47:58

Very nice, Barry!!

If only we got some snow round here sometimes . . . I once thought of something similar for my old Land Rover using an electro-hydraulic system off a small dump truck (if that's what you call them), but cables are good, too!!

Well done both of you. It's good to have friends around with skills like that.

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Peter(Ottawa)

12-02-2004 09:28:45

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Re: 1952 TEA-2085 Pictures of my new plow in reply to Barry from Stirling, 12-02-2004 07:47:58

Barry, looks great. I am doing the same thing but I'm using a 6 1/2 foor Myers plow out of the 70's.I will try to post some pics when complete.
Are you using loaded tires and chains? Did you try it out yesterday with the heavy snow that fell?

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Barry from Stirling

12-02-2004 09:40:16

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Re: 1952 TEA-2085 Pictures of my new plow in reply to Peter(Ottawa), 12-02-2004 09:28:45

Hi Peter.We didnt get one once of that snow here in Stirling yesterday, all we got was rain and lots of it. The tires are loaded on the back, I have a set of chains for her. Might have to put some weight on the back. Going to try her out 1st before I go that route. Im pulling a float this weekend in our local Santa Claus Parade, so after that is over I will have a chance to play with her. Regards ,, Barry

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Jerry Doyon

12-02-2004 09:25:59

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Re: 1952 TEA-2085 Pictures of my new plow in reply to Barry from Stirling, 12-02-2004 07:47:58

Hey Barry,
Never mind... I looked down the chat page and saw where you asked how to post the picts... and I found them. Looks pretty cool to me, I am quite sure it will do the job! Your Buddy defintely has talent and vision!

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JerryDoyon

12-02-2004 09:15:08

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Re: 1952 TEA-2085 Pictures of my new plow in reply to Barry from Stirling, 12-02-2004 07:47:58

Barry,
I would like to see the pictures... that is if you would give us your web site?

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Barry from Stirling

12-02-2004 09:23:38

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Re: 1952 TEA-2085 Pictures of my new plow in reply to JerryDoyon, 12-02-2004 09:15:08

Jerry
They are on this site, look to the left and you will see a box called " Galleries " click on the " Tractor Photos " and you will see them. There are 5 pictures in total. The picture title will say TEA-2085 with a plow. Let me know what you think of them. I guess I should have put them under Implement Photos, but this was the 1st time posting pictures. Anyway I hope you like them,,, Barry

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John (UK)

12-03-2004 11:56:40

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Re: 1952 TEA-2085 Pictures of my new plow in reply to Barry from Stirling, 12-02-2004 09:23:38

Plow looks good Barry. The Ferguson plough some of them are talking about had two supports from the front frame to the rear axle and located on the stabiliser brackets to take any sudden thrust but that was also designed for earth moving too.

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