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Boom pole again

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Jim W

08-16-2004 07:37:30




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Is there anyone who has made this and can report on how well it works? I have scrounged some steel to make up a boom pole, and am trying to find out the best geometry for not lifting too fast vs. getting eough height - as I intend to use it to install/remove engines, among other things, and want fine control.
I assume the one in this diagram pivots where the triangle meets the beam. Others I have seen for sale must require a top link - if I go with a solid unit how short does the top link need to be?
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Jim

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Kevin

08-17-2004 20:17:21




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 Re: Boom pole again in reply to Jim W, 08-16-2004 07:37:30  
Has anybody ever tried to fashion a crank to fit on the PTO shaft to raise the boom pole for fine adjustments?



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Mr Chapp

08-17-2004 12:15:25




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 Re: Boom pole again in reply to Jim W, 08-16-2004 07:37:30  
Hi JIm... My boom is a home made affair built on an old scraper blade frame whereas the blade adjustment holes give me the advantage of working off to the side. Something you may want to consider incorporating into yours. Just a thought. Good luck, have fun!!



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gshadel

08-17-2004 08:49:30




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 Re: Boom pole again in reply to Jim W, 08-16-2004 07:37:30  
Jim, I can't speak for this particular design. I use an old post hole digger boom, I added a hook where the gearbox used to be. So, my boom is a lot shorter than this diagram.
I can tell you though that if you are looking for "fine" control, you probably won't be happy with a 3Pt boom. If your lifting V-8's, or V-6's with tranny's, your tractor front end may dance around, which will make it even harder to control. You might be best off to build your boom long enough to give you the height you need, keep the 3Pt hoist raised all the way up, and use a chain hoist or come-along under it to do the actual lifting/lowering.
My hydraulics are probably a bit worn. I have a add-on position controller on my TO-20. I find when I try to lift more than 300-400 pounds, my position controller throws the hydraulics into uncontrollable up & down bouncing. I have to disconnect the position controller to control the boom, but then my height control is gone, it is either up or down.
Hope this helps.

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Jack in NB

08-17-2004 05:49:52




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 Re: Boom pole again in reply to Jim W, 08-16-2004 07:37:30  
Well well well...

Looks like the buggers in W. Va. stole my idea....

But since I couldn't find a date on the print, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt!

Actually mine was a bit different - I had a flat plate on the bottom of the support triangle, with a couple of 3/4 bolts welded into the flat to sit it on a three-point drawbar and bolt it on. And I had three holes on the boom - 1 at the location shown, and one 3 inches either way, to give more height at the inner one, and more lifting power at the outer one. That really didn't work, because the hydraulic power would lift the front end of the MF 35.

The unit in the drawing does pivot at the top of the support triangle.

On the commercial units, the standard top link should work. Adjusting shorter will give higher lift, longer will reduce the lifting height and increase the lift power, up to the limit of the tractor hydraulic power or front end weight.

The sensitivity of control is determined by how well your system is functioning. My 35's are now reasonably smooth (after complete rebuilds - as purchased, most had bad valves and operated jerkily, and the loose master control spring added some interesting jumping effects at times); slow engine speed helps.

I speak of the crane in past tense. Front end loaders have now replaced it, and it got a few bucks at an auction. The loaders provided more effective results. (Except that time when I put a tooth through a windshield....)

An overhead chain hoist and engine levelling device has proven much more practical for engine removals. (Safer, better control all round.) A few 2x6 will give you an outdoor trestle frame if you do not have a building with overhead "hard points" to carry the weight of the hoist and engine.

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