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Kerry

08-01-2004 22:31:18




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My last query got 2 answers in regard to the 3 point linkage dropping when the 3rd arm jerked against the spring. Both replies thought that the spring had too much free play. However, this is not the case as it has been adjusted up to the recommended clearance. Is there any suggestions to my next move?
Also John in the UK, I sent an e-mail to you @fergusontractors.com and it was returned undeliverable. Is there something missing, like .UK or whatever?
Cheers and thanks to those who took th e trouble to reply before.
Kerry Australia 3462

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John (UK)

08-02-2004 12:34:07




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 Re: 3rd arm in reply to Kerry, 08-01-2004 22:31:18  
Kerry, I cant trace the original email so I don't know what tractor you have. Can you let me know the model of your tractor please and what implement you have on the linkage when it does this.



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Kerry

08-02-2004 19:37:20




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 Re: 3rd arm in reply to John (UK), 08-02-2004 12:34:07  
I've got a TE20.
The impliment I,ve tried to use is a carryall. When lifting the bottom 2 arms tend to jerk against the 3rd arm and of course this compresses the spring. Hope this gives you a clue as to my problem.
Cheers and thanks again,
Kerry, Welshman's Reef, Australia.



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John (UK)

08-07-2004 05:16:26




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 Re: 3rd arm in reply to Kerry, 08-02-2004 19:37:20  
Just wondering how you got on with your hydraulic problem Kerry? Have you managed to sort it out yet.



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John (UK)

08-03-2004 10:35:53




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 Re: 3rd arm in reply to Kerry, 08-02-2004 19:37:20  
Well that is your problem, it's not the tractor that is at fault, it's your carry-all. What is happening is, as you say, it's compressing the Control Spring and sending the Control Linkage too far and jamming the Control Valve. The Control Spring should never really compress, as you know that is how the Depth Control System works and even with a plough or cultivator the spring hardly compresses because as soon as the hydraulics sense anything through the top link they lift the lower links to counteract that pressure. So look to see how you can change your carry-all...Do you have a picture of this Carry-all so I can see it too. I will look on the net for one but just in case I cant find one it would be useful.

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John (UK)

08-02-2004 12:26:09




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 Re: 3rd arm in reply to Kerry, 08-01-2004 22:31:18  
Hi Kerry, Sorry about not being able to deliver that mail, I am still having problems with that address for some reason.the correct address is fergusontractors at hotmail dot com I cant remember what model of tractor you have right now so I will lookback through the emails and reply shortly



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Kerry

08-10-2004 00:09:38




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 Re: 3rd arm in reply to John (UK), 08-02-2004 12:26:09  
Hi John,
I can't tell what is happening at the moment as I have now got a puncture in one of the rear wheels. I took it to the local garage as the tube was perished. I live near a small town with one garage. The town (Maldon) is an old gold mining centre and has lots of weekend tourists, mainly visiting the quaint old junk shops. I suppose they are the city folk version of grey fergie buyers. Anyway, Coxie at the garage has been promising me the wheel back every day for the last week. He did say today that tomorrow is a definite maybe. As soon as I get the wheel back I will start experimenting with some other impliments. I have been studying the carry-all, you know the country way. You stand and stare at things for hours on end. The only thing that looks different to the other impliments is the distance between the bottom and top attachments is a lot closer than on the others. I can't see any geometrical reason for this to cause problems, but I will look closer when I get the bloody wheel back.
Cheers and thanks for your continued interest,
Kezza

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John (UK)

08-10-2004 11:43:26




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 Re: 3rd arm in reply to Kerry, 08-10-2004 00:09:38  
Hi Kezza, That made interesting reading..lol..I have been looking more into this problem and the reason for the spring being compressed. I now have the correct dimensions for category 1 hitch that your tractor has, if possible you should modify the carry-all to these dimensions to prevent further problems. distance between the lower link arms is 26.5" distance centre of lower link pins to centre of top link pin is 18.5". please let me know what you find and how you go with this one please...John

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Kerry

08-13-2004 21:09:29




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 Re: 3rd arm in reply to John (UK), 08-10-2004 11:43:26  
Well Hi again John,
It just doesn't get better. Finally got the wheel back on started it up. The hydraulic arms were raised and as they had stayed up for over a week I thought that was a sign that things there were working well. I lowered them to hitch up and what do you think? The bloody things won't lift anymore. They have been faultless prior to being left for the time it took to get the tyre mended. What do you think is the first and easiest thing to try. I am still an optimist I suppose, though it will probably be something more serious again.
Cheers and thankls,
Kezza

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John (UK)

08-14-2004 04:02:37




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 Re: 3rd arm in reply to Kerry, 08-13-2004 21:09:29  
Hi Kezza, It sounds as though the Control Valve is sticking or become detached from the end of the Control Fork. If you mail me at fergusontractors at hotmail dot com I will send you a check sheet for you to work from, it will be easier that way than trying to explain it on here briefly.



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