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Brush Hogging With a TO-20

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RichZ

07-11-2004 18:41:37




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I've had my TO-20 for 4 years, and I use it a lot, especially for brush hogging. This year, I decided to leave the tire chains that I use for snow traction in the winter on all year. I always felt my brush hog came way too close to my rear tires, and sometimes, but not often, it would even hit them.

This year, I'm way late on a lot of farm chores including brush hoging my pastures, and I went out to do it today. With the tire chains on, my brush hog actually got hung up on my rear wheels. Not a fun experience!!!!

The problem is the lower 3ph arms move back and forth, allowing the hog to get closer to the wheels. I use chains to hold up the hog and keep the hog level, but that's not the problem.

Anyone else ever run into this, and how did you solve it? I know taking the tire chains off would solve the immediate problem, but the hog still will hit the tires sometimes anyway, and I want to fix this situation once and for all!!!

Thanks for any advice!!!!

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Chuck Bergstrom

07-13-2004 07:23:53




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 Re: Brush Hogging With a TO-20 in reply to RichZ, 07-11-2004 18:41:37  
Do not shorten those chains. You need two stabilizer bars. A right angle bracket goes
under the axle housings on the fender bolts-
you may already have the brackets there. Then
you need the straps to go from these back to
the lift pins on the cutter. The pins on the
under fender brackets should reasonably line up
with the lift link pull pins on the tractor hsg.
These are not expensive-avail at your dealer or
a "farm or fleet"store. Do this or you will also
have PTO problems. Do it right!

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Outcast Ranch

07-13-2004 07:47:08




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 Re: Re: Brush Hogging With a TO-20 in reply to Chuck Bergstrom, 07-13-2004 07:23:53  
Chuck, thanks for the input.

I think I'm understanding your description of the stabilizer bars but am curious how shortening the chains can cause PTO damage?

It's not binding anything, but merely limit the arms by about an inch.

I'm not disagreeing, but am trying to understand. Are you saying that damage can be caused by not having the stabilizer bars, or that shortening the chains is risking damage?

Thanks in advance.

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Outcast Ranch

07-12-2004 08:15:48




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 Re: Brush Hogging With a TO-20 in reply to RichZ, 07-11-2004 18:41:37  
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I think I know what you're talking about..... Side-to-side movement puts the hog into the tires.

My TO-30 did the same thing and I simply take a link out of the chains in the photo so there's not enough side-to-side movement to allow the hog to catch the tires.

I'm presuming your tractor is similar.

Some of my implements need that extra link to allow the bars to swing out far enough to hook them up, but for the hog I shorten them up.

Hope that helps.

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RichZ

07-12-2004 15:06:30




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 Re: Re: Brush Hogging With a TO-20 in reply to Outcast Ranch, 07-12-2004 08:15:48  
Thanks, OCR!!

The back of my TO-20 is a little differnet. but I think I can rig something up like that. Great idea!!!



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Ray,IN

07-11-2004 20:33:01




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 Re: Brush Hogging With a TO-20 in reply to RichZ, 07-11-2004 18:41:37  
Are you using stabilizer bars(2) to keep the cutter from swinging from side to side? They attach to the same pins as the tractor lower arms, and to a stubby pin under the axle housing. This stubby pin and it's bracket are held on by the fender bolts. By back and forth I take it to mean front to rear.



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RichZ

07-12-2004 15:04:13




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 Re: Re: Brush Hogging With a TO-20 in reply to Ray,IN, 07-11-2004 20:33:01  
Thanks for the info, Ray!! You've answered lots of my questions before. By moving side to side, I mean moving left to right, and right to left. If the brush hog moves way over to one side, it gets closer to the tires, and eventually hits them.



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Mark Enersen

07-14-2004 01:18:26




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 Re: Re: Re: Brush Hogging With a TO-20 in reply to RichZ, 07-12-2004 15:04:13  
I have been puzzled by this stabilizer since i bought my mower. Couldnt find an attachment point on the tractor for it. Have used the mower wo stabilizers and got a few near-tire expiriences.

Does anybody have a picture of this bracket, so I can start making my own?



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Mark Enersen

07-15-2004 01:05:37




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Brush Hogging With a TO-20 in reply to Mark Enersen, 07-14-2004 01:18:26  
Thanks for the decription! I get the picture.

I will try to get the time this weekend for making one.


thanks again



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DS Ohio

07-16-2004 05:11:47




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Brush Hogging With a TO-20 in reply to Mark Enersen, 07-15-2004 01:05:37  
Just a comment..... .MY local TSC store sells those brackets for 9 bucks.(for the fergusons) I can also take a picture of mine installed )brackets) and post it if you like?



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MArk Enersen

07-16-2004 10:57:42




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Brush Hogging With a TO-20 in reply to DS Ohio, 07-16-2004 05:11:47  
Thanks DS, I would like that very much.
My email is mark@1ersen.dk.

9 bucks... I'll see if my local have one, before spending time creating it myself. :)



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DS Ohio

07-16-2004 11:09:49




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Brush Hogging With a T in reply to MArk Enersen, 07-16-2004 10:57:42  
I won't be back (access to email) till monday.

I will take a few pictures and get them to you monday morning (eastern time) I don't know if my brackets are the same as those sold at TSC. I just know they have ferguson brackets there for that price. My TO-20 came with brackets already on it when I bought it a few weeks ago. Me thinks they are "generic" because they have a row of holes for the large pin to go through ("adjustable")

se ya dave

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Ray,IN

07-14-2004 21:02:39




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Brush Hogging With a TO-20 in reply to Mark Enersen, 07-14-2004 01:18:26  
I don't have a picture, however I will try to describe one. The originals are cast but 3" angle iron 1/4" thick works fine. Drill two holes to mount it under the axle housing using the fender bolts. Drill a hole to accept the stubby pin(widely available)so the pin is directly under the axle housing if you will only use one bar. When you buy the bars the distance between holes is the same for all catagory 1 hitches, so matching them to the hitched implement and the stabilizer pins is just a matter of centering the impliment to the tractor and marking the brackets to drill the hole. If you make two brackets the hole position is more critical of course. The easiest way to determine the position of the stubby pin hole is to locate an old Ford N series tractor or another Harry Ferguson tractor to measure where the pin hole is in relation to the fender bolt holes. Sorry if this is confusing, it's trying times right now.

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