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?? Harry Ferguson TO-50 ??

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Gary M (MN)

12-28-2003 17:17:42




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This is the Name and Ser. No on the name tag just under the steering wheel, all the castings I looked at have TO50XXXX cast in them.
There is a tag on the left side of the engine just above the starter that has ( Z120 100322 )

I would like to find out when this tractor was built and where I could get info on parts,manuals
and specifications. It still runs for me, I have owned it for 30 years and would like to start restoring it.

Thanks in advance for any help you can give.

Gary M (MN)

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Duner Wi

12-29-2003 18:39:36




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 Re: ?? Harry Ferguson TO-50 ?? in reply to Gary M (MN), 12-28-2003 17:17:42  
Am I missing something. You first line says,
"This is the Name and Ser. No on the name tag just under the steering wheel." You did not tell us what the # is on the tag under the steering wheel. Any way from the engine # you gave I would guess you have a 1948 TO 20 probably with a very low serial #. On the left of page is Research & Info. click on Tractor Registry and check out the engine serial #s.

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Gary M (MN)

12-30-2003 14:10:57




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 Re: Re: ?? Harry Ferguson TO-50 ?? in reply to Duner Wi, 12-29-2003 18:39:36  
Thanks to everyone for coming back so quickly.

I was refering to the subject heading in my first sentence "Harry Ferguson TO-50" This is what is on the serial plate or name tag under steering wheel. This tag is in very good shape and is plainly TO-50 nothing else except pattent no's.

The engine serial no. is not as clear but after double checking is Z120 100322 it also has a 1 and 2 on vertical the 1 on top 2 under on the extreme right hand side of the plate.

I was not accurate about the casting no's,they are
Z120A-600 cast into the motor block left side at about the starter area, TO-4024 diferential and pto housing, TO-7006 on the trans housing, the transmission cover is seperate from steering box and there is no external oil filter. The castings are not chipped or damaged.

I went out and checked these no's in day light to make sure there were no mistakes it is for sure TO-50 on the serial plate nothing esle.

Thanks for all your efforts on this question.

Gary M (MN)

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Phil(va)

12-30-2003 15:42:24




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 Re: Re: Re: ?? Harry Ferguson TO-50 ?? in reply to Gary M (MN), 12-30-2003 14:10:57  
As others have by now pointed out, you have a TO-20. Certainly you have a TO-20 engine. Also, the model is not on any of the serial number plates I have seen for these tractors, so as Duner says, it appears you have serial number 50, model TO-20. That's obviously a very low number. Might be more collectible, who knows? Perhaps others will have some insight into that.



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Duner Wi

12-30-2003 14:41:04




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 Re: Re: Re: ?? Harry Ferguson TO-50 ?? in reply to Gary M (MN), 12-30-2003 14:10:57  
I am thinking you have serial # 50 . Yours is a very low engine # so is possible I think. I have engine serial #101479 but no data plate uner the steering wheel. I know mine is fairly early do to production changes. The data plate on the TO 20 I have looked at have TO only and the serial #,never saw one with TO 20 and the serial #. There are supposedly date codes in some castings and the hyd. pump. Check the archives for more info on date codes. Goood luck!

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Paul in AZ

12-29-2003 15:47:17




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 Re: ?? Harry Ferguson TO-50 ?? in reply to Gary M (MN), 12-28-2003 17:17:42  
Gary, you did not indicate exactly what the tractor SN was on the dash plate. The number you cited (from the engine SN plate) is not the tractor SN. The early TO models had the TO as a part of each casing number. This changed when M-H and Ferguson merged. Does the tractor have an external oil filter or is the filter inside the pan? Is the transmission cover integral with the steering box or is it separate? Joe is correct that there was no TO-50. The Z120 engine suggests you have either a TO-20 or a TE-20. Post some additional information and someone on this site will be able to help you identify it.

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Joe in Houston

12-29-2003 14:08:52




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 Re: ?? Harry Ferguson TO-50 ?? in reply to Gary M (MN), 12-28-2003 17:17:42  
Gary,

To my knowledge there was never a TO-50. According to the serial number and the motor model I would say this is a 1952 TO-30. The Serial Number (100322) shows as a 1952 TO30 on this link>Link

Double check to see if the Cast isnt chipped or something and making a 30 look like a 50.

Thanks and good luck.
Joe

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