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47 Ford 8N vs 52 Ferguson

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Dave K

01-12-2003 12:29:54

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I have a quite nice 47 8N which has a few problems and I would like to upgrade. Realizing your probable bias in favor of Ferg., I would appreciate some opinions. The Ferg I am looking at is reportedly a 1952 and I believe it is a TO-30. The current owner allows that it is a 30HP and I believe he referred to the engine being a Co????, something like Continental. It has been fully restored and drives quite nicely. 1. Should both tractors be in like condition; I would like a dollar comparison of the relative value of the two.
2. Rough idea of the dollar value of the Ferg. regardless of the 8N.
3. Any pitfalls and advice of what to look for.
4. Availability of parts.
Any and all advice and comments will be greatly appreciated. I like my Ford but this Ferguson looks pretty darn good.

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Garry

01-16-2003 06:53:28

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Re: 47 Ford 8N vs 52 Ferguson in reply to Dave K, 01-12-2003 12:29:54

I have owned a 9N ford and a 600 Ford (similar to NAA) and now own a 1952 Ferguson TO-30. I like the Ferguson better than the other two. It is easier to work on and seems to be less maintenance (my 2 cents). The value of the Ferguson should be between $1,500 and $3,000 depending on the condition. You can compare the tractors at www.machinerylink.com/resources/uevg/sbm/default.asp.

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Phil (VA)

01-13-2003 06:58:45

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Re: 47 Ford 8N vs 52 Ferguson in reply to Dave K, 01-12-2003 12:29:54

I've owned an 8N and currently have two TO-30s. The early 8N, like the one you mentioned, has a front distributor and thus is harder to tune up. The side distributor 8Ns (51 and 52 I believe) are much easier to work on. My TO-30s will outpull an 8N in similar condition. In fact my experience with TO-30s is they pull a plow as good as a Ford NAA. The only real advantage to the 8N over the TO-30 is the 8N has position control, which is nice for bush hogging and using the back blade. You can add that easily in 30 minutes to the Fergie with a $75 add-on kit available from two sources. I agree with all the other comments as well. Parts are no problem for either tractor.

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Ken in Memphis,Tn

02-07-2003 14:56:26

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Re: Re: 47 Ford 8N vs 52 Ferguson in reply to Phil (VA), 01-13-2003 06:58:45

Can you tell me these sources for position control ?

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David

01-20-2003 12:14:51

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Re: Re: 47 Ford 8N vs 52 Ferguson in reply to Phil (VA), 01-13-2003 06:58:45

I have an old Fergie. Need a new 3 point adjuster.
What are those sources you mentioned for a position control?

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steve19438

01-13-2003 06:02:21

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Re: 47 Ford 8N vs 52 Ferguson in reply to Dave K, 01-12-2003 12:29:54

i have owned both model tractors. pound for pound if i had my druthers i would take the ferguson. with it's tilt hood and OHV engine simple maintance is a breeze compared to the ford. one thing about the continental engine; they are prone to crack between the cylinders if a previous owner let the engine overheat or if there was not enough anti-freeze in cooling system. if this fergy does not have anti-freeze in (cold climate conditions) the cooling system i would be suspect. as far as i know the only way to determine if the block is cracked is to have anti-freeze in the cooling system, if the block is cracked between the cylinders the AF will leak into the crankcase. sometimes the block will crack only where the head meets the block, that is not too much of a problem as the head gasket will seal the carcks. parts are no harder to get for the ferguson than the ford. (my experience)

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Jim W

01-12-2003 18:14:31

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Re: 47 Ford 8N vs 52 Ferguson in reply to Dave K, 01-12-2003 12:29:54

If it is a TO-xx, the engine was made by Continental. Cast on the side of the block will be Z-120, or Z-129; this indicates a TO20 or TO30 respectively. I think 1952 is a bit early for a TO30 but I may be wrong. Just in front of the steering wheel should be a plate with the serial number; from this you can tell the year.
The value depends on many factors, but especially where you are. The Fords seem to be favoured more among the collectors in the USA, so they command more $US there.
Apart from obvious things like sheet metal and tire condition, I would pay careful attention to how well the hydraulics work as they can be expensive to repair.
The Ferguson does not have position control or a live pto, but it is a tractor that really grows on you and the overhead valve engine is said to provide more torque than the flatheads found on the Fords.
There seem to be more aftermarket suppliers for Fords; Ferguson people are more inclined to tell you where the nearest wrecker is.
Jim W.

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