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HELP!!! Ignition problem

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NCtim

03-16-2002 15:51:12




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I recently installed an electronic ignition kit which I purchased from Genesee Products on my 1949 TEA-20 Ferguson. Now I can't get a spark at the plugs when the engine is turning. I do get a spark when I turn off the ignition switch, which tells me that the coil is charged and the cap and rotor are in good shape (brand new).

I've converted the electrics to 12 volt negative ground with no trouble. The points were working before I converted to electronic. The tractor ran well. I was tired of cleaning and gapping because I have a front loader installed and reaching the distributor is a task in itself.

Let me say that this is the second kit I've installed because I sent the first one back thinking it was defective. Same problem.

Andy at Genesee is probably the most patient and helpful person on this earth. I've corresponded through email at least 10 times and on the phone and he's been most helpful. This problem seems to be beyond the scope of normal experience or logic.

Any suggestions will be appreciated.
NCtim

p.s. no jokes about Lucas electronics. I've had 11 British Leyland sports cars and I do know why they drink their beer warm.

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Jim W

03-17-2002 06:55:29




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 Re: HELP!!! Ignition problem in reply to NCtim, 03-16-2002 15:51:12  
Is it possible thatyou have to have it turning faster to trigger the circuit? I mean if it's a Hall effect you would have to have the wee magnet going by the sensor with some speed at least.
I know it sounds too simple but sometimes it's the simple stuff we overlook.
Jim



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NCtim

03-17-2002 13:02:40




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 Re: Re: HELP!!! Ignition problem in reply to Jim W, 03-17-2002 06:55:29  
Thanks for the tip. I'll check but I don't think it matters.

Tim



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ronnie

03-17-2002 05:26:22




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 Re: HELP!!! Ignition problem in reply to NCtim, 03-16-2002 15:51:12  
Check that you get 12v at pos. side of coil when cranking. Have you done anything to the starter solenoid if equipped?



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NCtim

03-17-2002 05:30:26




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 Re: Re: HELP!!! Ignition problem in reply to ronnie, 03-17-2002 05:26:22  
I haven't used the starter. I'm just turning the motor over by hand. I should get a spark as the magnet passes the sensor. I'm getting a spark when I cut the ignition swich off so I know that the coil is charged.



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ronnie

03-18-2002 18:17:14




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 Re: Re: Re: HELP!!! Ignition problem in reply to NCtim, 03-17-2002 05:30:26  
what is the name brand of ignitor? Are you sure it is installed correctly?



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NCtim

03-19-2002 04:59:25




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: HELP!!! Ignition problem in reply to ronnie, 03-18-2002 18:17:14  
It's Pertronix. Built to fit this distributor. I've gotten confirmation that it's installed correctly.



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ronnie

03-19-2002 14:34:41




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: HELP!!! Ignition problem in reply to NCtim, 03-19-2002 04:59:25  
Wire should run from ignition switch to + side of
coil,red wire from ignitor to + side of coil black wire from ignitor to - side of coil.
Also can I get the Pertonics part# I want to install one on my TO20?



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NCtim

03-19-2002 14:57:10




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: HELP!!! Ignition problem in reply to ronnie, 03-19-2002 14:34:41  
My part number is LU-145. This is for a Lucas distributor. Genesee Products sells the Pertronix brand kit made specifically for your tractor. They are listed at left.

Do me a favor and tell Andy I sent you. He'll get a kick out of that!

NCtim



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Bill Mc

03-16-2002 16:33:43




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 Re: HELP!!! Ignition problem in reply to NCtim, 03-16-2002 15:51:12  
Hey Tim
If you could send me a schematic, I maybe able to help.

Bill Mc



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