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3588 Question,s?

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kirk in ks,

04-06-2006 08:51:51




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I want a 3588 because their unique,amd I like the IH cab,s too, real comfy,
Ive heard poeple say thing,s about the shifter,s
being in the wrong position,
But I like em there where you can get at them,
I could use this thing for about anything,
row crop, open field,in the yard, or just driving around town,
It,s not supposed to be like my Case 2670,although alot of people out there made the mistake of using it the wrong way,
If anybody likes these thing,s ,
will they write me back,and tell me what a decent one would go for,as Im contemplating buying one,and wanna be safe,than sorry!

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Nat 2

04-06-2006 13:14:18




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 Re: 3588 Question,s? in reply to kirk in ks,, 04-06-2006 08:51:51  
On the '86 series (1977-1981) and 2+2 anteaters made during the same time period, the shifter is on the left side of the seat. Since nearly all implements require you to look over your right shoulder, you have to swing completely around to change gears. VERY awkward, and inconvenient. Plus, the shifters didn't work all that well.

The designers must've figured there were too many levers on one side, that putting the shifter on the right just made it too "busy...."

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the tractor vet

04-06-2006 17:06:57




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 Re: 3588 Question,s? in reply to Nat 2, 04-06-2006 13:14:18  
Now stop and think about this Just how often do you change gears in the field , myself i pick a gear that i know is going to do the job at the speed that i want to run now if the old girl does not have enough for that gear and i think it should then the olny stop i do is long enough to tweek the pump so it will haul it in that gear . And with a I H with a t/a for that real tough spot that is what is used so for plowen with a 66 seires 4th low stick ahead for sod and for corn ground 1 high stick ahead disken it is 1st high stick ahead in our ground because of the rock crop and i realy hate replacing broken blades . So i never found that the gear shifts on a 86 seires out of place i just don't care for a cab even though i owen a 1486 and maybe that is one of the reasons that i have never finished that one up yet two tires and a kit in the clutch cylinder and finish putting the cab interior in and a paint job . Just like a shoe repair man his kids go bare foot my tractors are the last to get fixed .

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chadd

04-06-2006 09:17:29




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 Re: 3588 Question,s? in reply to kirk in ks,, 04-06-2006 08:51:51  
I always think that they were a really cool idea. I'd get one too if we worked enough land for it to be viable and they weren't so dang expensive in our area. Main things I've heard is that the PPH hydraulic system is a major pain in the rear. What it essentially does is turn off your hydraulic pump whenever you aren't using the remotes(theoretically giving you more power to the wheels). Problem is starting and stopping the pump beats the heck out of it and it requires a lot of linkage and moving parts to accomplish this feat. Naturally it requires a lot of work to keep everything properly adjusted so the hydraulics work. Also, the filters need to be changed more often. PPH never panned out, and IH found out during testing that it didn't give a single extra horsepower to the rear wheels. Many farmers got so sick of fixing the hydraulics that they had them converted back over to the closed center system used on the 06 to 66 series. Also check the pivots where the tractor bends and the knuckles in the driveshaft. Seems to me that if something goes in there, you need to split the tractor to fix it. Engine-wise, make sure that the coolant filter is still there and that it has been changed as recommended. I have seen a few 2+2's at tractor pulls and they really do well. They typically outpull the standard chassis tractors with the same horsepower because of the better balance. The 2+2's in our area usually go for between 7000 and 15000. These are just gestimates from a few I've seen in the papers the last few years, I've never actually priced them. Good luck, they are good tractors from what I've heard.

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the tractor vet

04-06-2006 09:32:41




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 Re: 3588 Question,s? in reply to chadd, 04-06-2006 09:17:29  
Chadd the hdy. system is called a PFC pressure flow compensating and is controled by hdy pressure demand and yes they are a pita and they require special testing equipment to work on them and as of now i do not have the rest of the pieces for my flow rater to work on them and with out it you are screwed. and yes you can change them over but that is also a pain and the cost of doing it one of I H's not so bright ideas.

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chadd

04-06-2006 12:07:13




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 Re: 3588 Question,s? in reply to the tractor vet, 04-06-2006 09:32:41  
Yeah, for some reason I thought it was called Power Priority Hydraulics, but you are right, the service manual says PFC.



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