Diesel additives

Russ from MN · Jan 8, 2011

I see our local L&M has Power Service diesel 911 on sale, is it any good as a anti-gel? Thanks in advance, Russ

rick165 · Jan 8, 2011

its most likely just as good as the next one.
RICK

JDemaris · Jan 8, 2011

I've been using the white-bottle Power Service anti-gel for many years. Never had a gelling problem . . but.

Everything has changed with low sulfur diesel fuel and kerosene. Gelling properites have changed a lot in low-sulfur fuels. Can't compare to how anit-gel additives worked in the past, to now.

Because of all the new problems, pump fuel is already treated during the winter when sold in cold regions.

I still have dyed farm diesel that is not low sulfur, and using Powser Service white-bottle still works fine for that. Just have to watch since they keep making the bottles smaller. One jug treated 300 gallons a year ago, now only treats 250.

Handyman · Jan 8, 2011

power service 911 is to be used only after your fuell has gelled.

paul · Jan 8, 2011

That should be the red bottles, I think I have one but not sure I've used it.

The 2hite bottles are for anti-gel, I've gone through many bottles of that here in MN over the years.

The 911 is designed to ungel a tank that has already gelled; not sure if it works fine for antigel, or if it's too agressive for that or something?

The white bottles of Power Service are generally cheaper to start with, and work well for me.

--->Paul

BDT in Minnesota · Jan 8, 2011

I keep a sealed red 96 ounce jug in the semi for emergency use..

It does not state on the jug about "routine" or regular preventive use,; just for when the engine will not start..

BDT in Minnesota · Jan 8, 2011

Yep, Power Service is playing the container tricks on this product in the white jugs... 32 0unces will treat 100 gallons... The larger jugs are 80 ounces; so they will treat 250 gallons..... Didn't the larger jugs used to be 96 ounces??? (which would treat 300 gallons)

buggers must be taking packaging lessons from the laundery detergent and breakfeast food companies.

BDT in Minnesota · Jan 8, 2011

Well, I just checked on the Red 96 ounce jugs,, they too, have been 'shrunk' to 80 ounces!! (and 250 gallon treatment)

S2710 · Jan 8, 2011

one gallon of regular gas to fifty gallons of diesel. Been using it for forty years and never had a problem. Bob

David G · Jan 8, 2011

Run the white bottle of power services, the red bottle is for gelled situations. I run a little in my tractors year round to prevent gelling and biological growth.

Anonymous-0 · Jan 8, 2011

Some people around here will only use Howes and some will only use Power Service. Have heard good and bad about each. We don't use any of it when it gets below zero, we use No. 1 fuel and have never had a problem. Guess we'll see how we get through this week, as it is supposed to be -15 to -20.

Russ from MN · Jan 8, 2011

Thanks for all the good replies, I think I will pick some up just to be on the safe side. Trouble is I buy some winter diesel the first week of November and that might not be treated well enough, I burn so very little, just for snow plowing, snow is too deep to go out in the woods anymore.

Anonymous-0 · Jan 8, 2011

Pump fuel is NOT treated in ALL cold regions, lucky for the mechanic told Me last month the service station owner never said a word bout it, cold in nw PA.

JDemaris · Jan 9, 2011

I can't attest to who follows rules and who does not. All pump fuel sold in cold reagions is supposed to be certified for a certain cold-weather "cloud point" and a certain level of lubricosity. All low-sulfur fuel gets additives. The question is how much and who checks.

I'm wondering how a service-station operator would have "inside information" about what the suppliers are putting in their fuel way before it reaches the delivery trucks that bring fuel to the stations.

dbernie · Jan 9, 2011

As already stated, the 911 is for an already gelled tank.

I run Power Service year round, gray/white bottles.
Any brand has its pros and cons.
Around here Power Service is all I can find.

However, I have been told that diesel engines prior to around 2001 should use some additive, or even mix in some bio-diesel, as the low sulfer diesel has lost its lubricity for the fuel system--pumps, injectors, etc. Therefore, if running diesel straight from the pump in an earlier diesel, one will get premature fuel system failure.
The fuel just doesn't have the lubricity it once did due to EPA, etc.
Supposedly, the newer engines, around 2001 or so and up, are designed to run with the lower lubricity fuels.

I am not a chemist, nor am I Rudolf Diesel. This is simply what I heard from several sources, and I care to err on the side of caution and run an additive year round. This may be correct, or it may be incorrect info.
Just thought I'd share. I'm not sayin one way or another, just sharin what I heard.
Take care, Dan

Mark - IN. · Jan 9, 2011

The link is what Pervice says about 9.1.1. I have some but have never used it, or had to use it. Have had it a couple f years.

I run PS (white/black) or Howes all year around in my trucks of equipment. I have never had a problem with either and have nothing bad to say about them.

Can you use 9.1.1 as regular antigel? Got me, I"ve never tried it before.

Mark
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