Building a 5th wheel trailer

Ultradog MN

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Twin Cities
A buddy of mine is building a 5th wheel trailer to replace his pull behind.
The deck will be 22' including the beaver tail.
Overall length from 5th wheel pin will be 28'.
The question we have is where to mount the axles?
Is there a formula out there giving the best ratios for length vs axle placement?
If it matters they are 12K tandem axles with dual 16" wheels.
He works in a giant machine/fabricating shop so the building part is easy. We just need to know where to place the axles.
Thanks for any and all help.
 
I'd center (pivot point) the tandem axles about 2/3 of the way back from the front of the deck. btdt.......with gooseneck.
 
my dual tandems are in the back just like a regular OTR trailer for what I haul 2/3 back would not work. So I would say that he needs to know how he is going to use it.
 
my dual tandems are in the back just like a regular OTR trailer for what I haul 2/3 back would not work. So I would say that he needs to know how he is going to use it.
 
For placement of the trailer axles you really need to know the common load weight/cubes and what kind of truck he is using.

Light trucks like single tire pickups usually use the 2/3 formula because it gives you room to put some of the load behind the trailer axle. This allows the trailer to carry more of the weight because the truck can hot handle the tongue load.
With a larger truck you will want the axle farther to the back of the trailer to give you room in front of the trailer axle to apply weight on the drive axles of the truck.
 
6ft neck is too short, all the newer stuff is 8ft.

With a 5ft beavertail, that only leaves 17ft of deck space, way too short in my opinion. Want more like 22-25 feet of deck to center wieght better.

If you go with a shorter beavertail than 5ft, even 4ft, becomes too steep to comfortable load, even if you do a pierced beam design. 4 ft sounds like enough, but it isn't when you are 34" off the ground

Those are heavy axles for that short a trailer, if you use the 2/3 rule, you will lift the back of the pickup off the ground if you load anything heavy up the ramps
 

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