Has anyone been ticked for over GVW, but properly licenced?

e · Apr 19, 2010

Got the truck and trailer licenced for over and above what I will be hauling. Problem is the tare weight on the truck is 7400lbs and the GVW is 8800lbs. That sure doesn't leave a lot of margin for a gooseneck. Obviously I will try my best to get the trailer loaded to carry most of the weight and won't do anything silly like have it riding on the overloads. But I'm wondering if anyone has ever gotten in trouble if the truck is still under licenced weight, but over listed GVW or GCVW?

D7fever · Apr 19, 2010

sounds like you have a 1/2 ton Pickup, you need a bigger truck, HD 3/4 ton. you can have 1400 lb, tongue weight on the trailer, plus what the trailer can carry, gross less tare.

D7fever · Apr 19, 2010

If truck is rated for 8800 lbs gross, and you reg it for 10,000, if you are over gross (8800) you are in violation.

e · Apr 19, 2010

I have a heavy ¾ ton. That’s what has me baffled. I have every dang heavy duty option (towing, plow prep, camper prep) plus 4.10 gears, big sway bars, heavy drive line, diesel, etc. With 1400lbs in the box, doesn’t even make it sag an inch, heck, it’s about the right amount of weight to just get it settled down. The total axle rating is 11,500 and is in line with tire capacity. So I start wondering about every other ¾ ton I see going down the road with a fifth wheel or gooseneck. They all have to be dang close to or well over GVW?

Traditional Farmer · Apr 19, 2010

I have never had the truck weight tag checked at a DOT check only care about what is on the registration

kyhayman · Apr 19, 2010

No.... I've been stopped for lots of different things but no one has ever compared my GCVW to my license, nor have they dipped my tank to see what color my fuel is. A Kentucky farm plate is good to 38,000 pounds. I'm sure not putting that behind my pickup but I'm not a light hauler either. Even with 20,000 and change on my GCVW with truck, trailer, me, and 14 round bales I'm at the max. My other truck has a 16,000 and change rating so thats blown out of the water with any kind of load, but I rarely use it to haul anything but the cattle trailer.

I've heard all the horror stories on here about so and so and a friend of a friend got these gigantic fines or insurance wouldnt pay. All states are different and interstate hauling is pretty cut and dried but intrastate is a whole different ball game. I may get a ticket tomorrow for some of that stuff but in 24 years of heavy hauling they havent bothered me yet over weights, tie downs, lights, brakes, etc in state. Now my lead foot and stubborness about wearing a seat belt is a different story, lol.

sotxbill · Apr 19, 2010

difference between gvw and gcvw.. you can be under gvw and exceed gcvw with a big trailer. I do it all the time by coorectly loading the gooseneck so the load is mostly on the gooseneck and the load on the truck is per factory specs. by my gcvw is off the charts for the this particular 3500 dually.. my truck is supposed to haul a trailer up to 13500lbs..
my gooseneck is 7000 lbs empty and two 10k tractors pretty much puts it way over. round bales do it also. smaller junk is ok but remember that anytime I put more than 6500 lbs on my 7000lb trailer, I exceeding the gcvw. my trailer is rated for 25000lbs total.

kyplowboy · Apr 19, 2010

Don't you love KY?

I read things on here all the time that leave me scratch'n my head.

The biggest loads I pull are fertilize buggies out of the local co-op. The gravel hill I have to pull up to get to the scales tells me alot more about how much I can pull than a sticker.

Dave

john in la · Apr 19, 2010

So I guess by your thinking you can take a 1/2 ton pickup and buy a tractor trailer licence plate (80,000 lbs) and load your pickup down till the bumper is draging.

You can never be over GVW or GCVW ratings no matter what kind of tag you buy.

ben brown · Apr 19, 2010

i have a f350 20 ft gooes neck 5 foot drop i pull in west ky christiam county and have found the best way to avoid the law is all lights work on truck and trailer keep it in good shape and eveything tied down good. good paint, i did go through a weight station down around eddieville one day guy want to know jsut what i was doing in there weight station so now i just drive on by . act like i know what i am doing and of coures eveything i haul belongs to me.

F-350 · Apr 19, 2010

Every 3/4 ton pulling a gooseneck is exceeding their GVW by some but I've never really seen anyone get in trouble for it.I know several that are licensed at 24,000 for the pickup and trailer and routinely weigh near that.They had better have tires rated at over 3000 lbs each.

You must have a crew cab 4x4 to weigh 7400.

Walt Davies · Apr 19, 2010

Man you guys must have some real weird laws back there. Gross weight is what's on the truck not the trailer. Out here in Oregon you have to be over 20,000 GVW before you have to stop at the weigh stations.
Walt

Dean Olson · Apr 20, 2010

Don't try that in TX they will write you up and put the vehicle out of service. They are targeting 1 ton trucks hauling back hoes. The trailers are more that adequate but the truck isn't. Also writing them up for no Authority,MC #'s, log books etc. They are commercial vehicles used in commerce if they have a company name on them. TXDOT is broke and extracting cash from places they used to not enforce.

Oldmax · Apr 20, 2010

I'm going to add some fire to this. Do you know that most hitches have a max rating on them for towing with equlizer bars like 10,000 lbs . then they have a max rating for towing without the bars which is about 60% of that weight. like 6,000, I bet there are a lot of you out there that are towing above the rated weight for your hitch.

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