Tractors known for poor brakes

Cavecritter · Jul 21, 2009

This message is a reply to an archived post by Billy NY on July 17, 2008 at 06:15:10.
The original subject was "Re: Tractors known for poor brakes".

I am looking for a cheap price on insert-ball seat for
the brake actuating disc for a case 830 . Dealer price
is $22 a piece. I need twelve. Thank you .

RayP(MI) · Jul 21, 2009

My farmall 200 has poor brakes. Disk brakes, but still leave much to be desired. Son has much better luck driving that tractor than I, but he"s about 6 foot, 240#. I"m just a little guy.

Janicholson · Jul 21, 2009

You are better off looking for those with reliable strong uniform long lived brakes. An Allis WC with hand levers is marvelous. Farmall H with Band brakes is pretty good. Help me here with the good. Worst (opinion) is Number series X00, X50 IH and Super letter with IH disk. They are monthly maintain or either lock up and skid, or act like the stopping power of yelling loudly and widening your eyes as you slam into something.

NEIADan · Jul 21, 2009

Those Ih disc brakes can be a hassle. For a cheap fix we used to take them apart and throw some silicate sand on a smooth piece of floor, then aggressively work the discs on top of it. This would clean the off the varnish build up as well as scuff the surface for better stopping. The actuators really need to be dissasembled and sand blasted. Do not oil rather spray with dry graphite and make sure those steel balls are free from rust. Everything is to no avail if there is a leaking seal.

buickanddeere · Jul 21, 2009

Ford N series brakes are marginal at best even when new with just the tractor in dry weather.
Take the average N series out there today and stomp on the brakes with a load of hay behind.Or running a bush hog without an over running clutch.
The stop maybe a while happening but sudden as the tractor plows into some obstruction.

unclemerle · Jul 21, 2009

Massey 44. Grew up on 6 different ones and none had brakes that worked.

IH2444 · Jul 21, 2009

Another thing on the IH disc brakes. the drum needs to be sealed against the tranny case. No gasket supplied from IH and none specified. Seal with silicone works fine though.

Ultradog MN · Jul 21, 2009

LOL
If an H or a B could get started what an N would start... well never mind, They wouldn't. So we don't need to go into their brakes. Did you ever read Jack London's "Call of the Wild"?
About Buck the sled dog? When all the miners were betting on how much Buck could break free from the frozen snow and get to sliding alone?
Probably not. Well anyway, Buck is kind of like a Ford N in that story. Was able to outdo even his owners expectations - much less the crowd's.
You need to have a look at an N with new eyes,
Why, it might become the jewell of your fleet.

jimva · Jul 22, 2009

I would say the Massey Ferguson 231. It seems like i have to adjust the breaks each season and iam replacing brake pads every other year on mine. Oh and you better have a sturdy right leg to press down on the brake pedals.

davpal · Jul 22, 2009

I converted my 9n over to Buick Grand National brakes (strongest brakes ever manufactured in the history of man) and now I use the tractor to move around loaded train cars. Stops them easily.

Anonymous-0 · Jul 22, 2009

Those models with Case-o-matic were known for the brake issues. But all said and done when they were fixed, they would toss you over the sterring wheel if you stomped on them. Many of them were neglected in our neighborhood, and accepted as poor brakes.

A old family friend was having a auction, and when I went to help him, I advised him something was wrong with the brakes that need attention before he sold the tractor. Seemed when you pushed the brake pedal down like normal the brakes grabbed. Well he said that that was the way the 830 brakes came from the factory, and he was right. I had just got used to most of the Case 700-1030's having need for a big heavy foot.

He did make mention to those balls getting flat spots on them in our conversation thirty plus years ago..

Bill in IL · Jul 22, 2009

My Farmall M brakes are poor but I trust your opinion with the H. Guess I need to work on them cause they won't hold unless on the level.

Roy in Ga · Jul 22, 2009

Is it hard to work on those I have one I need to tear into and fix brakes on one side only but not good

Leroy · Jul 22, 2009

Don't know the difference but the 2N had since new always was poor on the brakes but I also have a 41 9N bought a few year ago and you hit those brakes and it will slide the tires. Worst brakes ever on tractor I drove was at the fertilizer company and was a 2020 John Deere. The Moline disk brake in the live PTO assembly on a U would not hold for anything but the band brake on the right side was good.

Bill(Wis) · Jul 22, 2009

Why worry about brakes on an N? Most of the time they won't start and if they do start they only run for about 20 minutes. Hardly time enough to get anything underway. (;>))

jimva · Jul 22, 2009

Its not to bad, Its a bear by yourself. I would suggest to have another person there to help. The worst part is taking the tire off and putting it back on.

Roy in Ga · Jul 22, 2009

that's kinda what I figured

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