Glyphosate Rates

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I bought some "CropSmart Glyphosate 41 Plus" generic RoundUp at Rual King to use on a small patch of RR soybeans and corn. In previous years I used actual RoundUp and it always had directions on recommended mixing rates.

Now I haven't had a good chance to look through to directions with the generic stuff, but what do you guys recommend for mixing rates?

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Thanks
 
You are taking a chance by admitting you aren't reading the label. If you department of agriculture is like TDA and they saw your post, they would be giving you a visit.
 
Read the LABEL. All the information for mixing and rates are in the label by federal law. You can also talk to an agronmist at your local ag center for recommendations.
 
Everything you need to know is right here...

http://www.cropsmart.net/labels/CropSmartLabel.pdf

Specifically...

Roundup Ready® Crops
Soybeans with the Roundup Ready® Gene
UNIVERSAL CROP PROTECTION ALLIANCE, LLC RECOMMENDS USE OF THIS PRODUCT FOR POSTEMERGENCE APPLICATION ONLY ON SOYBEAN
VARIETIES DESIGNATED AS CONTAINING THE ROUNDUP READY® GENE.
• Applying this product to soybean varieties which are not designated as Roundup Ready® will result in severe crop injury and yield loss. Avoid contact with
foliage, green stems, or fruit of crops, or any desirable plants which do not contain the Roundup Ready® gene, since severe injury or destruction will result.
• Roundup Ready® varieties must be purchased from an authorized seed supplier. Crop safety and weed control performance are not warranted by Universal
Crop Protection Alliance, LLC when this product is used in conjunction with “brown bag” or “bin run” soybean seed saved from previous year’s production and
replanted.
• The Roundup Ready® designation indicates that the soybean contains a patented gene which provides tolerance to Universal Crop Protection Alliance, LLC’s
Glyphosate brand herbicides. Information on Roundup Ready® soybeans may be obtained from your seed supplier.
NOTE: The use of this product for in-crop applications over Roundup Ready® soybean is not registered in California.
Application Instructions
This product may be applied postemergence to Roundup Ready® soybeans from the cracking stage throughout flowering.
Allow a minimum of 14 days between application and harvest of soybeans.
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Maximum Allowable Yearly Rates
Preplant: Maximum amount of this product which can be applied prior to crop emergence is 5 quarts/A.
In-crop: Maximum combined total of multiple in-crop applications from cracking throughout flowering is 3 quarts/A. The maximum rate for any single in-crop application
is 2 quarts/A. The maximum combined total of this product which can be applied during flowering is 2 quarts/A.
Preharvest: Maximum amount of this product that can be applied after loss of green color in soybean pods until 14 days before harvest is 1 quart/A. The combined
total of in-crop and preharvest GLY-4 PLUS applications may not exceed 3 quarts/A.
Cropping Season: Combined total per year for all applications may not exceed 8 quarts/A.
When applied as directed, this product will control labeled annual grasses and broadleaf weeds in Roundup Ready® soybeans. Many perennial grasses and
broadleaf weeds will be controlled or suppressed with one or more applications of this product.
There are no rotational crop restrictions following applications of this product.
For ground applications: Use the recommended rates of this product in 5 to 20 gallons of spray solution per acre as a broadcast spray. Carefully select proper
nozzle and spray pressure to avoid spraying a fine mist. For best results with ground application equipment, use nozzles which provide a flat fan pattern. Check
for even distribution of spray droplets.
For aerial applications: Use the recommended rates of this product in 3 to 15 gallons of spray solution per acre. Do not exceed 1 quart of this product per acre.
DO NOT APPLY DURING LOW LEVEL INVERSION CONDITIONS, WHEN WINDS ARE GUSTY OR UNDER ANY OTHER CONDITIONS WHICH FAVOR
DRIFT. DRIFT MAY CAUSE DAMAGE TO ANY VEGETATION CONTACTED TO WHICH TREATMENT IS NOT INTENDED. MAINTAIN APPROPRIATE BUFFER
ZONES TO PREVENT INJURY TO ADJACENT DESIRABLE VEGETATION.
AERIAL APPLICATIONS ON ROUNDUP READY® SOYBEANS MAY BE MADE ONLY IN THE FOLLOWING STATES: ALABAMA, ARKANSAS, FLORIDA,
GEORGIA, KANSAS, LOUISIANA, MISSISSIPPI, MISSOURI (BOOT-HEEL ONLY), NORTH CAROLINA, OKLAHOMA, SOUTH CAROLINA, TENNESSEE AND
TEXAS.
Annual Weed Rate Tables
The following rate recommendations will provide control of labeled grasses and broadleaf weeds in conventional and no-till soybean production systems. Refer
to the “ANNUAL WEEDS RATE TABLES ALPHABETICALLY BY SPECIES” on this label for rate recommendations for specific annual weeds.
Universal Crop Protection Alliance, LLC will not warrant crop safety or weed control when Roundup Ready® soybeans are treated with herbicides not specified
on this label. Because of the potential for: 1) crop injury, 2) poor weed control from antagonism, and/or 3) rotational crop restrictions, herbicides not specified on
this label should not be used, whether applied preemergence or applied postemergence as a tank mixture with GLY-4 PLUS.
This product may be used up to 64 fluid ounces per acre in any single application for control of annual weeds, where heavy weed densities exist. The maximum
combined total of this product which can be applied during flowering is 64 fluid ounces per acre.
NOTE: The following recommendations are based on a clean start at planting by using a burn down application or tillage to control existing weeds before crop
emergence. In no-till and stale seedbed systems, a preplant burn-down treatment of 16-64 fluid ounces per acre of this product can be used to control existing
weeds prior to crop emergence.
Midwest/Mid-Atlantic Recommendations
Narrow row or drilled soybeans: A single in-crop application of this product will provide effective control of labeled weeds. For best results, an initial application
of 32 fluid ounces per acre (fl oz/A) on 4-8" weeds is recommended.Weeds will generally be 4-8" tall 3 to 5 weeks after planting. If the initial application is
delayed and weeds are 8-18" tall, use 48 fl oz/A for best results.
Under adverse growing conditions such as drought, hail, wind damage or a poor soybean stand that slows or delays canopy closure, a sequential application of
this product at 16 to 32 fluid ounces per acre may be necessary to control late flushes of weeds. The combined total application in-crop must not exceed 64 fluid
ounces per acre.
Wide row soybeans: An in-crop application of this product will provide effective control of the initial stand of labeled weeds. For best results, an initial application
of 32 fluid ounces per acre (fl oz/A) on 4-8" weeds is recommended.Weeds will generally be 4-8" tall 3 to 5 weeks after planting. If new flushes of weeds
occur, they can be controlled by sequential applications of this product.
Initial Treatment
Weed Height (inches) Rate (fluid oz/A)
8 32
18 48
Sequential Application (if needed)*
Weed Height (inches) Rate (fluid oz/A)
1-3 16
3-6 24
6-12 32
*Combined total application in-crop not to exceed 96 fluid ounces per acre.
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Giant ragweed: Apply 32 fluid oz/A when the weed is 8-12" tall to avoid the need for sequential application.
Groundcherry, ladysthumb, Pennsylvania smartweed and morningglory: Apply 32 fl oz/A to weeds 3-6" tall.
Some weeds, such as black nightshade, woolly cupgrass, shattercane, wild proso millet, burcucumber, and giant ragweed, with multiple germination times may
require a sequential application of this product. Suppressed or stunted weeds may also require sequential applications. Sequential applications should be made
after some regrowth has occurred. Use a minimum of 16 fluid ounces of this product per acre for sequential applications. The combined total of all in-crop postemergence
treatments must not exceed 96 fluid ounces per acre.
Southeast Recommendations
Narrow row, drilled, or wide-row soybeans: An in-crop application of this product will provide effective control of the initial stand of labeled weeds. For best
results, an initial application of 32 fluid ounces per acre (fl oz/A) on 3-6" weeds is recommended.Weeds will generally be 3-6" tall 2 to 3 weeks after planting.
Weed Height (inches) Rate (fluid oz/A)
3-6 32
6-12 48
Under adverse growing conditions such as drought, hail, wind damage or a poor soybean stand that slows or delays canopy closure, a sequential application of
this product at 16 to 32 fluid ounces per acre may be necessary to control late flushes of weeds.
Sequential Application (if needed)*
Weed Height (inches) Rate (fluid oz/A)
2-3 16
3-6 24
6-12 32
*Combined total application in-crop not to exceed 96 fluid ounces per acre.
Florida pusley, hemp sesbania and spurred anoda: Apply 32 fl oz/A to weeds 2-4" for the initial application. Apply 32 fl oz/A when these weeds are 3-6" tall if a
sequential application is necessary.
Morningglory, black nightshade, groundcherry, and Pennsylvania smartweed: Apply 24 fl oz/A on 1-3" weeds, 32 fl oz/A on 3-6" weeds, or 48 fl oz/A on 6-12"
weeds for the initial application.
Some weeds, such as black nightshade, broadleaf signalgrass, Texas panicum, burcumber, and sicklepod, with multiple germination times may require a sequential
application of this product. Suppressed or stunted weeds may also require sequential applications. Sequential applications should be made after some
regrowth has occurred. Use a minimum of 16 fluid ounces of this product per acre for sequential applications. The combined total of all in-crop postemergence
treatments must not exceed 96 fluid ounces per acre.
Delta/Mid-South Recommendations
Narrow row, drilled, or wide row soybeans: An in-crop application of this product will provide effective control of the initial stand of labeled weeds. A sequential
application will be required to control new flushes of weeds. For best results, an initial application of 32 fluid ounces per acre (fl oz/A) on 2-4" weeds is recommended.
Weeds will generally be 2-4" tall 2 to 3 weeks after planting.
Initial Treatment
Weed Height (inches) Rate (fluid oz/A)
2-4 32
5-12 48
Sequential Application*
Weed Height (inches) Rate (fluid oz/A)
2-3 16
3-6 24
6-12 32
*Combined total application in-crop not to exceed 96 fluid ounces per acre.
Hemp sesbania and spurred anoda: Apply a sequential treatment of 32 fl oz/A at 3-6" tall weeds if necessary.
Some weeds, such as black nightshade, broadleaf signalgrass, Texas panicum, burcumber, and sicklepod, with multiple germination times may require a sequential
application of this product. Suppressed or stunted weeds may also require sequential applications. Sequential applications should be made after some
regrowth has occurred. Use a minimum of 16 fluid ounces of this product per acre for sequential applications. The combined total of all in-crop postemergence
treatments must not exceed 96 fluid ounces per acre.
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Perennial Weeds Rate Recommendations
A 32 to 64 fluid ounces per acre rate (single or multiple applications) of this product will control or suppress perennial weeds such as: bermudagrass, Canada
thistle, common milkweed, field bindweed, hemp dogbane, horsenettle, marestail (horseweed), nutsedge, quackgrass, rhizome johnsongrass, redvine, trumpetcreeper,
swamp smartweed, and wirestem muhly.
For best results, allow perennial weed species to achieve at least 6" of growth before spraying with GLY-4 PLUS. For additional information on perennial weeds,
see the “PERENNIAL WEEDS RATE TABLE ALPHABETICALLY BY SPECIES” on this label. For some perennial species, repeat applications may be required
to eliminate crop competition throughout the growing season
 
It all depends upon your sprayer. Once you know how many gallons of water per acre your sprayer puts out, then the label will show the mix. And then you have to see if your gallons per acre meets the parameters of what the label says for the crop or you have to adjust the sprayer. Depending upon what you are spraying, they might recommend drenching the plants or a light misting of a few gals. per acre. It doesn't always make sense to me so I understand why you are asking what others do but still it depends upon the sprayer output.

Yours has a peel off label according to the picture. You can also find the labels online. I would suspect what you have just a different label name of the standard 41% glyphossate that other brands use. I buy the generic as well.
 
The local coop told me that they use 1 qt for 25 gal of water and use 25 gal per acre. Of course different concentration levels of roundup would vary this mix so be sure to read the label.

Rocky in MO
 
1 quart of 41% Glyphosate to the acre , doesn't matter how many gallons of water you use . That being said the researcher's are saying to stay about 10 gallons or below of water & you'll get a better kill .
That is just for Glyphosate many other chemicals work better with more water .
You also need a good surfactant . We are finding the day's of just throwing some Glyphosate out there doesn't kill the weeds anymore
 
I havent read the label YET, because it is 60 miles away. I plan on doing that tonight once I get it home, and spray tomorrow. Thats why I asked on here today, so I could get some good input by tomorrow.

Thanks
 
Sounds about right Larry. It just doesn't make sense that 10 gallons would get much coverage on an acre but maybe it does depending upon the droplet size/mist. What drops that do land on a weed would be more stronger concentrated I guess.

Seems like when I mix 24D amine 400, I put 1 1/2 pints to 2 quarts in 25 gallons based on 25 gallons an acre for pasture and ditch weeds like giant ragweed which will take over a waterway. 2 quart concentration for when I hand spray and maybe throw in an ounce or two of Tordon RTU to help knock down those 4 to 5 foot tall weeds. I never notice the weeds until they get too tall and then I wish I would have sprayed a month or two back.

I got some surfactant. In the gallon sprayer I use about a tablespoon of that and in the 25 gal. sprayer I use about a quarter bottle of dawn detergent. Not sure if one is better or not but the dawn is cheaper.
 
You need some Ammonium Sulfate fertilizer in the water before the glyphosate. A couple pounds per acre softens the water so hardness and dirt ions don't disable the glyphosate and makes some weeds take in the glyphosate better.

Gerald J.
 
The 10 GPA concetrates the chemical in the droplets and improves absorbsion mainly for fall spraying of sod. For spring application on active growing weeds 10 thru 25 GPA seems to work fine. For surfactants spray grade AMS should be added and a pint of NIS per 100 gallons is a good idea to.
 
When you used the Roundup branded it had the surfactants in the mix. With the generic you are going to have to add them or you risk a poor kill because no surfactants are in the generic.
 

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