After I tipped the tractor over, I call it a day!

Anonymous-0 · Apr 18, 2009

I was out this afternoon moving some big rocks in our yard that I wanted to clear out and be able to mow, Was using the 3010 n/f with 48 loader and cab, Got the rock to where I almost wanted it, and the tractor started to spin, I thought hmm thats weird, I was on fairly level ground, I straightened out my front wheels and over to the right I went, I just skinned my finger a little bit, broke the cab window on the right side was all the damage done, spilled a little gas, I hooked my super duty ford on it and tipped it back upright, I think im staying in the house the rest of the afternoon, and look for a wide front for that 3010!

Dan-IA · Apr 18, 2009

Praise God you're still alive! Rollovers are pretty risky.

Anonymous-0 · Apr 18, 2009

I've come close to tipping my little tractor over several times. Never actually done it though. Bet that was a feeling you'll remember.
I was on my way to work once and saw a guy driving across the top of a vineyard on a pretty steep hillside, It was a long stretch of highway and I watched him roll all the way to the bottom and walk away. Britches were probably full though.

Dave

Anonymous-0 · Apr 18, 2009

WOW! From your description sounds like you may need a counter weight on the 3ph.

Rollie NE PA · Apr 18, 2009

I have moved some good size rocks. If I can't pick them up with the loader I just flip them till I get them where I want them.Slow but sure.

Doug in Illinois · Apr 18, 2009

It happens way too fast. I learned my lesson about moving big round bales with the tractor when it is too icy for the pickup and trailer.

Just stay home. Everything was already going south in the days before that, ICE storm took down all the power lines. Wife went down to her Mom's to live, but I had no choice but to stay put for my mail route, and haul water for her horse.

So it gets to Saturday. Instead of freezing in a house with no power, why not haul hay in a nice warm tractor? Bad decision, if they start to slide you can't shut them down fast enough. IH1066 is prone to wander because of the hydraulic steering anyhow at road speed.

Than GOD for the cab, I laid it on the RH side in the grader ditch, also just broke the RH cab window. DOUG

TomH in PA · Apr 18, 2009

I laid my H on it's side once the same way. It doesn't take much of a slope to tip it when there's a heavy load lifted a little too high.

railhead · Apr 18, 2009

You are lucky you are still here. Ironically I have been working on one all day that a guy wasn't so lucky on. It is a GVI Minnie MO that has a dozer blade on it. The guy was pushing a pond out and it rolled on him and he isn;t with us anymore. Happened years ago but i just bought the tractor and am trying to get it going. Fenders have been pulled back up but are very noticably damaged.

BE CAREFUL!!!!!

plow hand · Apr 18, 2009

From some of your replies I've come to understand you are a religeous man..Well someone might have been watching over you..

John B. · Apr 18, 2009

Glad to hear everything is okay!

You'll probably be a little sore tomorrow morngin when you wake up!

Anonymous-0 · Apr 18, 2009

Spread the rear wheels. Don't lift high. Both can help.

Gerald J.

Anonymous-0 · Apr 18, 2009

The rear wheels are out pretty wide, but a 3010 is so light in the back and im sure the narrow front didnt help in stability

Mike M · Apr 18, 2009

Do you have the rear tires filled with fluid ?

M Nut · Apr 18, 2009

Wow! Glad you are ok Harlan.

rrlund · Apr 18, 2009

Gez,and I thought a blown hose on the loader tractor and a big dirty broken chain on the spreader made a bad end to the day!

Anonymous-0 · Apr 18, 2009

just glad to hear about it from you and not your obituary.glad your okay. RICK

Anonymous-0 · Apr 18, 2009

Thanks for posting.A story like that makes the rest of us more careful,I know it does me.Glad you're O.K..

Oldmax · Apr 18, 2009

Somethingwe see very few of here in WV is narrow fronts on tractors . If you do its on river bottom farms. They just don't do to good on the side of a hill.

Old Roy · Apr 18, 2009

Things like that usually only happen to the "other guy".

Glad all is well, Thank God !

glennster · Apr 18, 2009

i had my m try and do that a while back. it seems the weight was off to one side of the bucket, and not enough rear ballast. glad you are ok. i load the snot out of my rear tires and have 6 cast weights bolted to the rear wheels.

Anonymous-0 · Apr 18, 2009

You mentioned a wide front end to solve the issue in your post. Well a friend and I had a frendly little disagrement over that exact issue.

I will certianly agree a wide front end would be more stable on rough ground. But I would suggest once you get the wide front end under it you run one front wheel up on a ramp, say four foot high. Then study how far the front wheel has to go up the ramp till the bolster makes contact at all. In a incident your tractor is that far over---and your front wheels would be level, soooo the tractor tiiiiippppped the same angle (as the ramp in this example)--- well just see for yourself.

Wide fronts are thought by many to be safer, but for another example, you can also take a toy tractor with a wide front end and try to tip it over---see where the wide front actualy gives ANY resistance. We (EMS) had a class on tractor roll overs years ago, and the instructor pointed this out. He was refering to hill side stability at the time.

Rear weights, and carry the load real low as others have stated. I'm glad you can tell the story. Keep telling others, it may save a life. I read once how many seconds it takes to roll a tractor, compared to reaction time.

Ultradog MN · Apr 18, 2009

You're close enough that I would have heard about it on WCCO or KSTP. Fellow kilt himself on a tractor. Almost as newsworthy as a plane crash. Glad you walked away.
I think it's more about planting those rear wheels firmly on the ground rather than wide or narrow front. Neither will tip much more than the other if you're properly ballasted in the rear,

JMOR · Apr 18, 2009

When I start thinking things are not going so well for me, I just start thinking about someone I know who is truly in bad shape & then I realize that I should really be happy as a pig in stink!

Burnie · Apr 19, 2009

Glad to know that you're OK. The debate about wide vs. narrow front and stability comes up on this forum every now and again. A rollover occurs when the centre of gravity moves outside the tipping axis. The further forward the centre of gravity, the more unstable the tractor. Adding wieght to the back and wide rear wheel spacings (as others have advised) will improve stability as it moves the centre of gravity rearwards where the tipping axies are further apart. If you go to the link and have a look at pages 2 & 3 it may help explain things.
Tractor rollovers

james rumph · Apr 19, 2009

Glad only your pride was hurt. But i never under stand why people put loaders on a narrow front in the first place.

It's like a one wheeled bike it will fall at some point.

Start asking on here ware a wide front can be found in your area.

All in all glad all that is wrong is a couple windows and some paint.

Lesson learned.

rustyfarmall · Apr 19, 2009

I have changed my opinion on the safety issue of narrow front versus wide front. I now firmly believe that ALL tractors should be equipped with wide front axles, whether a loader is installed or not, and I will be more than happy to sell anyone a brand new Schwartz wide front axle. Just send me an email and I'll fix you right up. After all, we can't have a whole bunch of those totally unsafe narrow front tractors running around in the fields and on the roads waiting for a chance to overturn at the slightest opportunity.

thurlow · Apr 19, 2009

Instead of, "The devil made me do it", it's now, "The mean ole tractor made me do it." I suggest a MANDATORY buy-out ($1.00 per hundred lbs.) of all tricycle tractors to get these unsafe accidents-waiting-to-happen out of the hands of the unwary public. They can be melted down and beaten into plowshares. "When tricycles are outlawed, only the outlaws will have tricycles."

rustyfarmall · Apr 19, 2009

NO, NO, NO. Not the whole tractor, just the tricycle front end. Penny a pound trade in value on a new wide front.

buickanddeere · Apr 19, 2009

How wide are the rear wheels set?

dieseldoc · Apr 19, 2009

I rolled a 72 4020 when I was about 13 yrs old.I was chasing a ground hog and hit a washout. I did not get hurt till my grandad found out how I wrecked his tractor. Now 14 yrs later he still gives me grief for that.

Anonymous-0 · Apr 19, 2009

I PREFER narrow front! I mow with a Super C farmall with Woods belly mower and for the last 17 years I have mowed the road banks along my driveway and along the state hwy. in front of my place. There are several places where the banks are so steep I have to stand on the uphill brake to keep the front of the tractor from sliding down the hill. I have the rear tires set wide as they will go and run factory wheel weights and it is the most stable tractor I have ever been on. If it was wide front I would loose my 'zero turn' abilities and it would take much longer to mow my yard. There is no ROPS, no seatbelt, and no fenders! My best friend has a Kubota wide front and he can't get on half the slope I run on. His rear wheels have very little adjustment. I did quite a bit of mowing for him last year and especially around his ponds I was terrified. I was standing on the uphill step of the Kubota so I could bail off thinking it would go at any minute and roll right into the water. There is a reason the Kubota has ROPS and seatbelt - it needs them!! I'll take a narrow front anyday so long as the rear wheels are adjustable.

INCase · Apr 19, 2009

interesting article. The front tip point on the wide front tractor is pretty far in near the engine, not too far (but better) from a narrow front tip point.

Be Careful out there this spring/summer. Have a friend in the hospital for a month now and will be there quite a while yet because he started it while standing on the ground and it took off and the rear wheels and disk (I think) ran over him. Be careful.

Steven f/AZ · Apr 19, 2009

Go to a camera shop and see if you can purchase a "quad pod" - I don't believe you will find one.

Ask them for a "tri-pod" for your camera and I'm sure they'll be happy to help. A tri-pod is inherently more stable.

The only time I've heard of narrow front tractors tipping is either with a loader, or some idiot driving too fast. Dad has tipped over a couple of wide front tractors with loaders on them, and so has our neighbor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip7ZMcEF_Co
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSdx9S6XZ_I

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