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Well, I guess we can forget using cooking oil in diesels. According to a report in the paper, it is such a valuable commodity that thieves have started stealing it from resturants. The price last week was $2.50 per gallon for used oil.

KEH
 
Don't worry, no matter what alternative we come up with big oil and the government will be sure to make it nearly as expensive or more than gasoline and diesel at the pumps... And they'll be sure to tax us on our ingenuity as well!
 
Steve F, I think that I read somewhere that the reason that oil is so expensive is because they stopped making it 100s of thousands of years ago. and between us and the Indians and the Chinese its being used faster than it can be pumped out of the ground. and that the people responsible for making sure that their companies have enough next winter keep offering what they have to to keep it coming.But why is oil and gas here in the US only half the price of just about anywhere else in the world? What our Govt needs to do is artificially lower the price even more so that we can keep on going like we have been and let our grandchildren learn to talk Chinese while they freeze in the dark. Right Steve?
 
Showcrop, if you read my post carefully it was meant to imply that our [b:01c04678eb]ALTERNATIVES[/b:01c04678eb] to fossil fuels are being taxed or artificially increased in price...

I don't want to see our country in trouble, and I agree that our fuel is cheaper than most other places in the world... I have no problem seeing $5 fuel if that's what it takes for us to pursue CLEANER alternatives that will help make our country SELF SUFFICIENT energy-wise.

I just personally believe that there are forces at work that are keeping us from [i:01c04678eb]clean[/i:01c04678eb] alternatives by inflating the prices or taxing them excessively... such as those that brew their own biodiesel having to pay taxes on it. If I build myself a picnic table out of trees I cut on my own property, do I need to pay taxes on its value? Same concept of home-brew fuels from "waste" materials such as used cooking oil, right?

I do everything I can to conserve fuel and electricity and try to be "green" when it comes to my consumption habits. There is a point where it is not feasible for me $$ wise and I have to use what I can afford...
 
Sorry if I miss read your intent I do know,however, that used cooking oil is not going to be cheap regardless of taxes because the restaurants get paid too much for it by the companies that haul it away.
 
(quoted from post at 18:36:37 06/01/08) Sorry if I miss read your intent I do know,however, that used cooking oil is not going to be cheap regardless of taxes because the restaurants get paid too much for it by the companies that haul it away.
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I agree that used cooking oil will not be cheap... but I think there was a time when restaurants had to be the ones paying the companies to haul it away... I know that people used to get it for free anyway.

There was a time when a gallon of fresh cooking oil was cheaper at Sam's Club than a gallon of diesel fuel...

I can see how my first post could be mis-read - that's what is tough about message boards, you can't see a facial expression or hear tone of voice.

On the alternative fuel topic, I had read a few months back about bio-diesel from algae farms... seems you can grow it in glass tubes and it doesn't take much energy input or use the acres that growing corn does. Here's one website on that topic:
http://www.unh.edu/p2/biodiesel/article_alge.html
 
I heard a story a while back of a guy who converted his motorhome from gas to run on used cooking oil. he traveled across country to a nascar event, where he was promply arrested for using UN-TAXED fuel...
 
That in two years the price has doubled and diesel use to be the cheap way to go but not no more!.... So my thoughts wonder how can all this happen in this short time and be right!?! No way as I can see it.
Was the Goverment asleep all this time.. would think they would have seen this coming. But "naw" is my answer.. just another ripe off so the rich get richer.
 
some resturant chains now lease cooking oil ,and they turn it in to be recycled and used again
 

I've seen several documentaries recently on TV that promote "stealing" used cooking oil from behind restaurants. "Trucks" on Spike TV, "Dirty Jobs" on Discovery, and "Invention Nation" on Science Channel to name a few.

When it was worthless old grease, you were doing the restaurant a service because otherwise they'd be paying to have it hauled away.

Now that it's a commodity with value, it's "stealing."

What a load of crap. It's just like the music industry. Back in the 1980's it was perfectly fine to make a "mix tape" of copyrighted music and share it with your friends. Along came Napster, and now suddenly the same exact concept is evil and punishable by law.
 
Larry, The goverment is a major cause for diesel being so high. EPA regulations requiring ULSD diesel fuel add a lot to the price of refining it. Have you noticed that when the EPA's new regulations took effect a few years ago is when the price rose above gas and never looked back? Another thing with ULSD is it gets 5 to 10% lower fuel milage. Also the fact that this country runs on diesel, trucks, trains, equipment, heating oil ect, makes it more in demand thus the higher price.
 
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