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beans on 30's or 15's?

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kyplowboy

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This is my first time in the row crop game. Had cows and tobacco all my life, bought a farm behind me that is too big to make payments with the tobacco I have barn room for and too many creeks on it to fence for a while. Anyway, my question is this, 15 years ago every one around here went to 15's on beans. Most still do but with roundup get'n the ground covered fast is not as big a deal and with rust and other things to worry bout some have gone back to 30's to let more air in. Take'n a poll here to see what you good folks do and why. Thanks in advance.

Dave
 
Around here about 75% of the beans are sown with a no till drill. Some use every other opener (15 inch rows) or use them all for 7-1/2 inch rows. Don't know of any 30 inch rows anymore.
 
been ther edone that 40 30 15 71/2 and yield wise not whole lot difference. I still do the 7 1/2 simply because its the machne I have left. Solsd all the other implements. I would just use what you have now.
 
Went from 18" beans and 36" corn to 30" for both myself this year for some of the same reasons you listed plowboy.
 
What I have is a 6 row 7000 on 30's. It's only about 38 or so acres. Double drill'n it on 15's won't take that long. If is anything like the corn was the get'n ready takes forever and the plant'n goes by so fast it is hard to belive I am done.
 
In our part of the world, the west edge of central il, there seems to be a slow move back to 30in rows. Alot of things come into play. At one point there were a whole bunch of no till drills, lots and lots of them but getting a good stand of beans was a crap shoot. It took to much seed and most were 15 footers and they were to slow so most all of them are gone. Some got relaced with split row planters and some with 30in planters. The split row planters work fine but are expensive and heavy. There is little evidence of added yield with 15 in rows so people are replacing split row planters with 30in planters at a increasing rate. Alot of guys who bought those deere 1780 splitters have traded them off for something else. There are guys who traded 12 row splitters for 16 row 30 in planters. Just seems like without any big yield kick that 30 in rows are going to be the norm again.
bill
 
Here in NW Iowa the majority of the farmers who did plant beans in 15" or narrower rows have gone back to 30". White mold can be a problem with some varieties in drilled or 15" rows and what little yield increase gained from narrow rows does not justify the investment in the extra equipment.Jim
 
In this are (central IL) there seems to be a good balance of drilled and 30" beans. We do 30" 15" and drilled beans. Yes the drill can be a crap shoot like bill said. So for us the 15" planter is setup for no-till and puts the beans in consistently unlike drilling. The big problem with 30" beans you will have to spray it twice and with the price of chemical it does make drilled and 15" beans more attractive.
 
Lots of people talk about going back to 30". Ours is set at 20", guess kind of the middle ground. Some of you guys only get away with spraying once for 15"s? We usually need two apps for ours. Anybody still rotary hoe corn? We do on the heavier ground when needed, not too many do it anymore. Still see some new ones being sold at the JD dealer though.
 
Just got a new 15" bean planter this year and love it so far. Most still use drills in this area of NW Ohio. I think that is just because quite a bit of wheat is grown here so you need a tool for that. Smaller farmers can't justify another piece of equipment. Plus seems like we always plant corn and soybeans at the same time anymore in the spring, so using the corn planter is out of the question. I think you will grow a better crop if use some sort of row unit planter (15 or 30) as opposed to a drill. A drill isn't much better than a broadcast spreader as far as metering is concerned, in my opinion.
 
We treat every field differently.

1. Worked ground goes in 30 in rows with the JD 7200 vac at 175,000. No burndown 2 post applications.

2. No-till ground gets put in 7.5 inch rows 175,000 with a JD 750 drill if conditions are good. A burndown and a single post application.

3. Wet conditions or cold temperature No-till ground gets put in 15 inch rows by plugging every other meter in the 750 drill. A burndown single post application plus a late season touch up around borders and edges or where populations are thin.

7.5 inch rows are my favorite. They're the easist to harvest and ever since I switched to cruiser treated beans I've never sprayed a field twice. They just don't have enough push to come up in dry or crusted worked fields or cold wet no-till fields. Make sure your seed dealer knows the way you intend to plant your beans. Certian varieties respond better to dryer wide row conditions and other varieties have better resistance to cooler wet diseases which are more common in narrow rows. Watch your varieties and there will be little if any difference in yield.
 
You're right. They all have their place. Im with you though cutting no-till drilled beans are a dream compared to anything else. 175000 in 7.5 inch rows sounds awful lite to me. I usually plant 200 to 250000.
 
I only plant 7.5 when conditions are good. Plus I use treated seed and I purchased slow down gears from my JD dealer that slows down the meters for gentler seed hadleing. I also reduce speed when the drill is less than half full.
 
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