For the IH Fans

jd2cyl1943 · Feb 28, 2023

You guys probably don't know this, but I am I big Great Lakes Shipping buff. I thought you might want to see these pics of the International from IHs Great Lakes Shipping fleet. They had two ships, The International an The Harvester.

J. Schwiebert · Feb 28, 2023

They also owned a railroad in the Chicago area.

504 · Feb 28, 2023

Nice!

ihplowboy · Feb 28, 2023

They fed the steel mill.

Mark-Mi · Feb 28, 2023

Thanks, I did not know that.

IHRedRules · Feb 28, 2023

Thanks for sharing! Im a huge IH fan, spent the first 36 of my life in Michigan and never knew IH had a fleet of Great Lakes ships at one time.

Pete76NYPa · Feb 28, 2023

This is cool! Never knew they had them. In addition to the tractors and implements, Dad had (so I guess I do now) an IH M1 Garand too. this pick blown up will make a neat addition to a display. hope ya don't
mind if I steal a copy

redforlife · Feb 28, 2023

I never really thought about it. But I
imagine International Harvester went
through enough iron ore to warrant having
thier own ore vessels.

I was told once, that back in the day, IHC
didn't have very many problems with thier
parts and what not, because they used alot
of raw iron ore, and didn't use much
recycled metals. Not sure if the guy knew
what he was talking about. But he did also
claim to of been around the Chicago area at
one time way back when.

wore out · Feb 28, 2023

''IHC didn't have very many problems with thier parts and what not, because they used alot of raw iron ore, and didn't use much recycled metals''

Do you have ANY info to back that up?

Were Ford or Alice Chompers or DEERE using ''recycled metals'' in that era?

I have NO idea, but if youhave any info on this it sure would be an interesting read!

redforlife · Mar 1, 2023

Well, I've never really researched it out
myself. But I'll tell ya one thing, it
makes sense on a geography stand point.

The iron ore belt being in the great lakes
region. IHC being based out of Chicago. And
Deere being based out of where, Iowa?

Stands to reason that any makers in the
iron ore belt, primarily used iron ore
instead of scrap. Probably used more iron
ore than makers not in the iron ore region.

To be honest with ya, I'm not sure where
Alice Chalmers was based out of. Or where
Ford tractors were actually produced at.
I'm not implying that IHC was the only
maker within the iron ore belt, but some
makers weren't within that region. And if
not, it does stand to reason that they
would use more scrap than iron ore.

Maybe start by researching these vessels
out that the original poster is talking
about. See if Deere had any of thier very
own iron ore boats.

INCase · Mar 1, 2023

makes sense.

IH and Case both had foundrys close to lake Michigan so easy access to iron ore. back then there may not have been as much scrap iron as there is now being so much was cleaned up during the war and people didn't over buy like we do now so not as much stuff around back then??

I'm sure Oliver, Ford, Deere and AC all had their ore shipped in via rail.

scrap iron isn't a bad thing anyway. the impurities are skimmed off before the iron is ready to pour. scrap iron would take less refining anyway.

i got to tour one of the supplier foundries a few years ago in Tell City IN. the cupola (sp?) operator would scoop up some iron ore, some other stuff then grab a bunch of scrap. saw him pick up a pickup snow plow rig with lights, pump, hoses and all and put it right in the top. they had a small channel that ran out with impurities in it. amazing how they could separate that stuff out.

also amazing when they poured the iron ran like water.

47fivewindow · Mar 1, 2023

The first step to bankruptcy is buying a boat. lol

Meangreen · Mar 1, 2023

Redforlife - Allis was based out of Wisconsin. I believe it was West Allis, WI, but I could be wrong (on the town).

Crazy Horse · Mar 1, 2023

I think (not sure) that some of the posts are implying that scratch-made steel from iron ore (and the other stuff in the process) is always of higher quality steel made from scrap iron. It's like buying a product from China, if you want to pay the price you can get the best of the best. Steel from iron ore processing can be of low quality too if that's all you need. We'd be surprised at how much steel comes from scrap iron and the quality of it in some cases. Scrap iron refining these days is a pretty scientific process and the impurities are physically and chemically removed in a variety of ways. Here's an informative link below .....
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