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sambo66

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Ive acquired an MF 165 diesel tractor and need to go pick it up 2 hours away. Will a car hauler trailer work? And will my Z71 have any issues pulling it. Newbie here so I wanted to get some wisdom.
 
Depends what you mean by a car hauler, one that you can rent from Uhaul will usually have tracks
that the tires sit into and the vehicle has to fit between the trailer fenders, not ideal for
hauling a tractor. If you mean a car trailer like you might buy from a trailer dealer, it will
likely fit if the tractor will fit between the fenders, you will need measurements to decide.
There is also the issue of weight ratings on the trailer and the weight of the tractor. According
to tractor data a 165 weighs just shy of 6000 lbs with no wheel weights and no ballast in the
tires. So if you are talking a trailer with 7000 lbs gross vehicle weight like most car haulers
you will likely be overloaded.

As far as your truck, do you have a brake controller for trailer brakes? Or is the trailer set up
with hydraulic surge brakes? What is the tow rating for your truck?

So no will know the answer to your questions, you will have to do some research.
 
I might give some thought to a roll off if you havent hauled heavy equipment before.

A lot can go wrong between the chaining and the hauling if you dont do it right.
 
Hello Sambo welcome to YT! Three questions is your Z71
a half ton or 3/4? And what year is it? Newer trucks
have high tow ratings. What is the terrain like of the roads you are moving it on?
 
I have a MF 165 diesel with weights and fluid filled rears. I have a 2 5/16 bumper pull heavy duty car hauler with two 3500 lbs axles. Electric
brakes work well and my controller in my 3/4 ton duramax truck is very good. MF spin rears a can fit in the fenders IF they are in in pretty
close. IF you can make your setup similar to mine you will be just OK. Anything less is a gamble not worth taking. Experience driving
pickups loaded to the max often comes with mistakes. I will not confess any more. I have recently purchased a deck over gooseneck with 8K
axles because I did not like my car hauler setup. Don
 
(quoted from post at 17:33:50 01/30/22) I might give some thought to a roll off if you havent hauled heavy equipment before.

A lot can go wrong between the chaining and the hauling if you dont do it right.
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Thanks for the info. Probably going to pay to have it moved.
 
I think you have made a wise decision to hire someone to move it. As my grandpappy use to say "Don't go tripping over dollars trying to save a nickel".
 
I bought a Ford 4610 years ago, at least as big as your 165...google Tractor data if curious. I loaded it on my 16' tandem trailer...the
ones that are popular for general purpose hauling, 3500# axles, 4.5 or 5.0 (forget which) x5 lug hubs, no trailer brakes, and hauled
it 200 miles from East Tx. to my farm. Dodge 1/2 ton 318 V8 using the torsion bar type trailer towing package I had bought to pull
my 27' travel trailer. Wasn't a problem at all. I didn't drive 70 MPH with it...took it easy mainly due to no brakes...wanted to be able
to stop in time if needed.....45-55 range.
 
One question that has not beem considered is style of tractor. Is it a low tractor with 28 inch rear wheels with a wide front. Is it a High 165 with 38 inch rear wheels with wide front more likely to have rear wheels set wider then if the HI version does it have the trycle Front, either dual wheels set about 6 inches apart or the single fronr wheel? For the High versions you would need a solid deck trailer and not one with just 2 narrow pieces of floor to drive on? High would be more top heavy.
 
I hauled a MF 65 diesel with a loader and tire chains with a home made car hauler(a friends uncle had built to haul stock cars, it had hubs from a 57 ford 3/4 ton) a number of years back. I used my 1972 Chevrolet 3/4 ton, 350 4 speed with ton springs. The only issue was it barely fit between the fenders. Unless you have a 3/4 ton truck and a pretty heavy car hauler I would hire someone. I saw a guy try to haul a Oliver 1800 gas home from a consignment auction with a car hauler, it was field ready. He made it about four miles. That Oliver bent all four axels resulting in four destroyed tires. That 165 is a pretty handy tractor with good road speed, as suggested driving home is always an option. I drove a JD B home about 20 miles with no issues. It had cut offs as it was shipped on steel, I got a good look at the back road country side.
 
You are making the right decision to pay to have it brought to you. Once you have it home you can figure out what you need to haul it properly, if you have a need to haul it in the future. You could ask the hauler to have it weighed on the way to you, then you will know what its weight is for future reference.
 
(quoted from post at 21:06:24 01/30/22) Ive acquired an MF 165 diesel tractor and need to go pick it up 2 hours away. Will a car hauler trailer work? And will my Z71 have any issues pulling it. Newbie here so I wanted to get some wisdom.
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Many, many times I have thought that I should have a trailer or ramp truck, etc. for hauling stuff.

Then I come to my senses and hire it out. Cheaper, safer and more convenient in the long run.

Hire a rollback truck. They are set up for hauling and all responsibility/liability lies with them.





This post was edited by Carlmac 369 on 01/31/2022 at 08:04 am.
 
(quoted from post at 19:51:53 01/30/22) I bought a Ford 4610 years ago, at least as big as your 165...google Tractor data if curious. I loaded it on my 16' tandem trailer...the
ones that are popular for general purpose hauling, 3500# axles, 4.5 or 5.0 (forget which) x5 lug hubs, no trailer brakes, and hauled
it 200 miles from East Tx. to my farm. Dodge 1/2 ton 318 V8 using the torsion bar type trailer towing package I had bought to pull
my 27' travel trailer. Wasn't a problem at all. I didn't drive 70 MPH with it...took it easy mainly due to no brakes...wanted to be able
to stop in time if needed.....45-55 range.
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Mark, did your beer get warm while your buddy held it for you the whole way?
 
(quoted from post at 19:51:53 01/30/22) I bought a Ford 4610 years ago, at least as big as your 165...google Tractor data if curious. I loaded it on my 16' tandem trailer...the
ones that are popular for general purpose hauling, 3500# axles, 4.5 or 5.0 (forget which) x5 lug hubs, no trailer brakes, and hauled
it 200 miles from East Tx. to my farm. Dodge 1/2 ton 318 V8 using the torsion bar type trailer towing package I had bought to pull
my 27' travel trailer. Wasn't a problem at all. I didn't drive 70 MPH with it...took it easy mainly due to no brakes...wanted to be able
to stop in time if needed.....45-55 range.
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Yup and a lot has changed since the 1970's. You're not going to leave plenty of room, because the other drivers will take up any space you try to leave for yourself.

I'd probably go ahead with the OP's rig myself if it was my only choice, because it's way more capable than your old Dodge but it is right at the bleeding edge of the trailer's capacity. You're looking at close to 9000lbs between tractor and trailer. This also wouldn't be my first rodeo.
 
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